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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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hansvonlieven

Same idea, different "inventor"

This time Veljko MilkoviÃ,,‡, who has been pushing his ideas for a very long time building models and getting nowhere. Lawrence got many of his ideas from MilkoviÃ,,‡.

Hans von Lieven

Tis is an excerpt from Veljko MilkoviÃ,,‡'s website:

ANTI-GRAVITY MOTOR

It is very strange, but it turned out that the same invention fulfils two ancient human dreams. One about a machine which works continuously, and the other about the flying device which moves according to the wish of the person on the device. Here, of course we do not mean aeroplanes and rockets, but a flying machine that does not use any kind of fuel. A vehicle with such a motor could move on the ground, in the air or anywhere in space, without fuel.

As far as technique is concerned, it prospered immensely, especially in the 20th century. On the other side, it is well known that new discoveries are usually technically very simple. For example, from a technical point of view, Veljko MilkoviÃ,,‡'s cart shown in the picture looks more like a toy than an attempt to make an anti-gravitational motor. When you look at it from the physics point of view, it looks completely different.



This cart contains everything an anti-gravitational motor needs. As with other models made by MilkoviÃ,,‡, there is an inertial force pushing them in one direction. The main part of the model is a physical pendulum which is askew and is moved by gravity.  Gravitational field should be replaced with a magnetic field, to enhance the efficiency of the model. MilkoviÃ,,‡ made a model with two askew pendulums, which oscillate with phases positioned towards one another in an angle of 180?.

When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

chrisC

Quote from: hansvonlieven on February 14, 2008, 02:37:23 PM
Same idea, different "inventor"

This time Veljko MilkoviÃ,,‡, who has been pushing his ideas for a very long time building models and getting nowhere. Lawrence got many of his ideas from MilkoviÃ,,‡.

Hans von Lieven

Tis is an excerpt from Veljko MilkoviÃ,,‡'s website:

ANTI-GRAVITY MOTOR

It is very strange, but it turned out that the same invention fulfils two ancient human dreams. One about a machine which works continuously, and the other about the flying device which moves according to the wish of the person on the device. Here, of course we do not mean aeroplanes and rockets, but a flying machine that does not use any kind of fuel. A vehicle with such a motor could move on the ground, in the air or anywhere in space, without fuel.

As far as technique is concerned, it prospered immensely, especially in the 20th century. On the other side, it is well known that new discoveries are usually technically very simple. For example, from a technical point of view, Veljko MilkoviÃ,,‡'s cart shown in the picture looks more like a toy than an attempt to make an anti-gravitational motor. When you look at it from the physics point of view, it looks completely different.



This cart contains everything an anti-gravitational motor needs. As with other models made by MilkoviÃ,,‡, there is an inertial force pushing them in one direction. The main part of the model is a physical pendulum which is askew and is moved by gravity.  Gravitational field should be replaced with a magnetic field, to enhance the efficiency of the model. MilkoviÃ,,‡ made a model with two askew pendulums, which oscillate with phases positioned towards one another in an angle of 180?.


G'day Hans!
Thank you for the related info. This is interesting. So, shall we now rename old Tseung's theory as:

The Me2 Tseung-Lee Theory?

cheers
chrisC

gaby de wilde

Quote from: gaby de wilde on February 14, 2008, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: Koen1 on February 14, 2008, 04:21:37 AM
@gaby: Do you mean to say you take any of Tseungs stuff seriously?

oh, yes very seriously.

QuoteThen perhaps you can explain in proper English and in a way that actually makes any sense,
how the "Tseung" UFO propulsion is supposed to work? Tseung himself seems unwilling or
unable to do any proper explaining, he just shouts a lot about how great he is.

Oh sure.

If you have a desk chair with wheels you can wave your arms in the air and make it roll forwards. This is the main principal of inertial propulsion. Exactly half way John Searl's old/long video he explains his version. You can find my explanation / implementation here.

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/gdewilde-anti-gravity
gabydewilde - gde wilde anti gravity

The lifter technology is doing just about the same thing only on nano-scale.

QuoteSurely you see the flaws in his "spinning the bottle" non-experiment?

No, I'm afraid it is exactly as simple as you think it is.

So, either Tseung is a genius or the rest of the planet is just dumb.

In practice it doesn't really matter what the answer is.

It does work.

http://www.google.com/search?q=inertial+propulsion

see? ;)

Quote from: shruggedatlas on February 14, 2008, 02:20:29 PM
Quote from: gaby de wilde on February 14, 2008, 01:58:25 PM

If you have a desk chair with wheels you can wave your arms in the air and make it roll forwards. This is the main principal of inertial propulsion.

Finally, an experiment I can perform to completion without even getting my butt out of the chair!

You have no idea how hard it is to engineer an experiment that people can do.

I'm happy it was a success.

QuoteI tried this, and my arms were not enough, though I noticed that I can make the chair move forward by doing a forward thrust with the lower half of my body.  It is more effective if I bring my legs up in an Indian position and just shove my butt forward quickly.

Yes, but the point is that your subconscious knows exactly how it works already.

QuoteHowever, the flaw with this method is that it works due to friction.  I am able to overcome friction by quickly thrusting forward.  If I then return my body gently to the starting pose, that movement does not overcome friction, so the chair stays in the forward position.  I can then repeat my quick thrust followed by a gentle return to starting form, and thereby travel accross the room as far as I desire.

In space or even in Earth's atmosphere, there is not sufficient friction to allow this to happen.

Sure there is.

QuoteSo a flying saucer cannot.....

hey hey, you didn't get off the chair remember?

Your conclusions are those of a person who has jet to do his first Google search on the topic.

Didn't even look at my excessive illustrations.  FFS!!

This was to much to ask from you remember?

I also supplied a link to the google search results.

I confess I was rather delusional-optimistic.

But I do remember drawing each one of those drawings for you,

and I did type the search words for you.

I tried more then hard enough to supply you with the information.

You didn't even look at it!

QuoteSo a flying saucer cannot use this principle.

YOU CANNOT click links and YOU CANNOT view pictures.

Those are the conclusions.

QuoteDo you have an example that actually works without the use of friction?

oh bla bla bla? You didn't look at Searl you didn't look at my website.

But now you want examples? WTF?????

No you don't.

You should be reading though the search results. I supplied you that link remember?

There are thousands of pages on the topic.

Sure 99.99% is written by people who didn't do their first web search on the topic.

This irony actually serves you well.

QuoteAlso, I have to say that from an energy standpoint, that type of movement is grossly inefficient.

Yeah, and a duck is more efficient as a swan.

bla bla blahh???
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gaby de wilde

Quote from: chrisC on February 13, 2008, 02:41:06 PM
Quote from: gaby de wilde on February 13, 2008, 02:32:07 PM
@above
I would prefer to see you concentrate the other forumers attentions (specially mine) on the most note worthy contributions. I don't see the use of you spending my time on that what you like the least. If you are still surprised to read Tseung postings in the Tseung topic there is something seriously wrong with you. All this rhetoric nonsense does illustrate how people got rid of the tech.

Quote from: ltseung888 on February 11, 2008, 03:05:51 AM
Quote from: Top Gun on February 10, 2008, 06:19:36 PM
My tenth question is:

(10) What is the significance of the magnet next to the motor experiment?  How can it be explained by the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory?


Dear Top Gun,

The two replies that are relevant are:
1517 ? answer to question (8 ) Do you think that there is substance in this Thane Heins Invention?  What is the likely reaction from Prof. Markus Zahn of MIT?
And
1496 answer to (6) People in the steorn forum has come up with a video showing an all magnetic motor.  See also:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.0.html

or http://www.oc-mpmm.com

Can you explain why it spins and whether that device is a hoax?

The easiest experiment to repeat appears to be the one you quoted in question (10)

Quote
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/665396/how_increase_speed_of_electric_motor/
With this tips you can increase by 200 % the speed of all your electric tools: skillsaw, jigsaw, screwdriver, chopper, etc. Very useful, very useful and easy to do.

Now the answer to
(10) What is the significance of the magnet next to the motor experiment?  How can it be explained by the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory?

If the electric motor can be speeded up by the presence of an external magnet, we need to research into why.  If the torque also increases, more work can be done.  Extra work requires extra energy.  Where does this extra energy come from?

The Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory states that magnetic energy can be extracted or lead out via pulsed rotations.  The presence of external magnets may provide this pulse.  The magnetic field produced by the two small permanent magnets will not be uniform.  The electric motor provides the rotation.  The combination results in the pulsed rotation necessary to Lead Out the electron motion energy (magnetic in this case).  The additional energy will contribute to the faster rotation.

The Thane Heins Motor in question (8 ) is a variation of (10).  The experiment in (10) is much more direct and easy to perform.  Mr. Heins tried to explain his motor via back EMF and would serve only to confuse the MIT professors.

The Whipmag device in question (6) shows the difficulty in Leading Out electron motion energy via simple rotation of permanent magnets.  The acceleration effect can only be seen at certain frequencies and for short durations.  Mr. Wang experimented for over 40 years and finally found his solution with

1.   Placing the stator magnets at certain angles and use magnetic shielding material,
2.   Coupling the solid magnet rotation mechanism with a ferro-liquid rotation mechanism.

The Whipmag people have worked on the phenomenon for only a few weeks.  Many of them have not digested the Lee-Tseung theory.  They are groping in the dark similar to what Wang did 40 years ago.  With dedication and reading our posts, they may not need 40 years to hit on the right configuration.


Quote from: mingmei on February 11, 2008, 05:25:24 PM
I have not had a chance to check back on this forum, as things have been very busy at the Agency.  I am surprised to see that there is some sort of impostor here, making up ridiculous stories.  If you look at post 1093, you will see that I was here before the impostor.

I am posting now for two reasons.  First of all, I wish for that awful storyline by Langley to end.  Hopefully, this will now be accomplished.

Second, I have been reading the things here, and I want to say that none of you have taken the time to understand Mr. Tseung's theories.  You are all very quick with insults, and this is not helpful at all.  Not to you, and not for the World.  Mr. Tseung clearly only wants to benefit the World, and insults are not helpful.  You are very lucky he is even writing things for you people.  He could have easily just made private use of his theories for his own benefit, which would have gained him much money.  Now, I think the Devil is correct - Mr. Tseung will never gain fame or fortune.

Now, Mr. Tseung, I know you were skeptical of me the last time I posted, but I want to assure you, I did pose as one of the staff at the massage parlor, and I did get a chance to speak with Mr. Wang at length.  Helping him relax "lead out" much useful information!  Since that incident, the CIA has actually taken a more relaxed view of Mr. Wang's research.  Some of the things have even been declassified and contracted out to the private sector.

I do want to confirm to the readers here that Mr. Tseung is correct.  The U.S. government is indeed close to finishing development of an inertia propulsion engine similar to what is described by Mr. Tseung.  We of course do not expect the people on this forum to understand non-rigid force rotation, but I assure you, Mr. Tseung, the top guns at CIA and other agencies do understand what you are talking about.

Mr. Tseung, I would like to discuss your theories further on here, and I would be glad to provide validation of who I am.  Here are some facts that only someone at the massage parlor, servicing Mr. Wang, would know:

Mr. Wang tipped me 700CNY for my services
Mr. Wang requested some things of me, which I would not go into, but I declined politely.  In the end, I only used my hands, like a proper masseuse.
Mr. Wang has a mole about 1/4 of an inch in diameter on the left side
Mr. Wang tried to kiss me afterwards, but I declined politely
Mr. Wang asked me for my phone number, but I declined politely
Mr. Wang offered to take me out to dinner and show me his 225HP motor afterwards, to which I did express interest.  He gave me his card and wrote his cell phone number on the back.  I have not called him.

That is about all I remember about servicing Mr. Wang, but feel free to have him ask me a question that only I know the answer for.

Oh, and Mr. Tseung, I believe I know who Top Gun is, as I am close to this person, and that person has confided certain things to me.  I am not ready to divulge that information, and Top Gun can do that.

Chill out Gaby! This is a comedy show.

Please supply your full name for the comedy show.

I think I can have lots of fun with that.

Little Chirs the anonymous wanker.

Couldn't even make an email address public.

What a pathetic fool.

QuoteDid you seriously think Lawrence has any real stuff between his ears?

I find your lust to spend your time making jokes about people revolting.

You are just some anonymous whining dip shit.

Lets take a look at your most serious post so far.

Quote from: chrisC on February 06, 2008, 01:57:02 PM
Quote from: ltseung888 on February 06, 2008, 01:01:07 AM
Look at this simple video:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/665396/how_increase_speed_of_electric_motor/

Just repeated the experiment with my oral B electric tooth brush.  The frequency (or the sound from the vibrating brush system) changed with the approaching of a strong magnet.

So there is nothing revolutionary with the Thane Heins discovery???

Lawrence, you're showing your ignorance again!

This is the post of a dumb whining baby.

QuoteYour knowledge of Physics is elementary at best and your knowledge of magnetics and electronics is at the grade school level.

Are we getting to the video the post was about at any stage?

QuoteThe moral of the story is don't believe everything you see and certainly don't jump the gun in announcing a great find to try impress others you're on the 'leading edge' in understanding these great OU findings, including such home made flying saucer experiments from your commie friends.

bla bla bla bla, hey mindless moron. This posting of yours doesn't relate to the one you are replying to in any way.

not even a little bit.

QuoteHaven't you been laughed at long enough

AHHH, so here you confess you are trying to pester him away.

It's obviously not going to work but it's interesting to note such effort.

Quoteand by more people you can even count?

You are not a real person untill you identify yourself as the 15 year old school dropout you really are.

QuoteI would have thought

Yeah, why did you give up on thinking?

Quoteyou would have learnt by now

YEAH, You teach them FREE ENERGY researchers Chris.

Quoteabout not teaching your nonsense on this and other forums, eh?

Ahh so little chris is policing the planet for us.

American I assume? Yeah, it just has to be one. Cant miss...

In other words,

You are the BS talker in this topic.

Not that Lawrence minds it. He doesn't care about it.

But I do care about it.

I think your 100 vs 1 verbal assault makes for quite a disgusting display.

It poetically illustrates what happened with all the tech.

I mean it's obvious people like you wouldn't recognize a technology if beaten over the head with it.

That is the funny part in this topic.

The energy crisis is going to provide much more suffering for you to laugh at.

Take 5 years for example.



The real laughter can start any moment now.

You hold your belly!

HAHAHA!!
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M@rcel

Gaby,

Perhaps you stated it a bit harsh, but I do agree with you!

Goed gedaan joh!