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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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Koen1

Top Gun / Tseung,

you very nicely illustrate the main problem with Tseung's "theory" and most of his posts:
He merely takes other peoples ideas and then starts shouting "this is Tseung theory and proof!".
He has not come up with one original decive concept.

Discovering a new principle or developing a new theory is NOT the same as taking other peoples
device designs and ideas and simply sticking your own personal interpretation onto them.
That is however the only thing we see Tseung do.

Quote from:  Top GunEven if you examine ten every day, it will take you 15,000 days.  You are likely to die of old age first.
You have to select.  You may miss some good combinations.  Trust your instincts. 

And that is exactly what should not at all be necessary if Tseung really had a good "theory" that explains FE:
he should be able to develop a device design based solely on his own theory, that can be physically tested
and will show the OU effects exactly as he predicts them from his theory.

One thing that he should NOT have to do, is study other peoples designs for years and select other peoples
designs that best suit his interpretation. That is the wrong way around.
If Tseung had actually already proven his "theory" to be correct by developing his own device desgin that
allows for testing of his own predictions in an proper empirical manner, then perhaps afterward he could show
how other devices designed/developed by other people also can be analysed and shown to work according to
that new theory. But not before. That's just quite silly. That would be like saying "I can explain perfectly how
to fly. Just look at the Wright brothers airplane, you can clearly recognise the elements needed to fly." and while
not entirely untrue, it is still not a proper theory that can be used to predict and design other forms of flight vehicle,
it is only a usefull interpretation for analysing the existing design. Well, the existing OU designs have already
been quite adequately analysed using proper physical and mathematical theories; we really don't need some
apparently inexplicable Tseung version of the interpretations if all it can be used for is to do another analysis
of existing designs. If the theory can be used to predict and design new devices or systems that actually
work, then it could be a very usefull theory. But so far Tseung has not shown that, even after the huge amount
of text he produces.
And another thing: Tseung should NOT be stimulated to go on intuition. He makes enough unfounded assumptions
and illogical deductions as it is, please don't stimulate him to go completely off the deep end and lose all grip on reality.


shruggedatlas

Quote from: Koen1 on April 12, 2008, 10:39:19 AM
And that is exactly what should not at all be necessary if Tseung really had a good "theory" that explains FE:
he should be able to develop a device design based solely on his own theory, that can be physically tested
and will show the OU effects exactly as he predicts them from his theory.

I think that was very well put and cuts to the heart of the matter.

Tseung, why don't you please just produce a device that follows your theory the best.  If you do not know how to use a drill, I will borrow from your own language, and suggest you bribe a friend with dinner and fine wine, and maybe someone will help you actually build this thing.

You have been preaching this stuff since when, 2005, earlier?  So far, nothing has come of it.  You will see much faster results if you have something to show besides controversial equations.  It is obvious at this point, so much time has passed and Wang Shum Ho's ideas will never pass the government's "validation", so it is time for you to, as you call it, shine.

Nothing fancy is necessary.  Just a simple pendulum that can somehow sustain itself through Lee-Tseung pulls.  Come on, show us just one self sustaining device that can be replicated and we will all bow down and chant the Lee-Tseung mantra.

Top Gun

Quote from: shruggedatlas on April 12, 2008, 01:49:54 PM
Quote from: Koen1 on April 12, 2008, 10:39:19 AM
And that is exactly what should not at all be necessary if Tseung really had a good "theory" that explains FE:
he should be able to develop a device design based solely on his own theory, that can be physically tested
and will show the OU effects exactly as he predicts them from his theory.

I think that was very well put and cuts to the heart of the matter.

Tseung, why don't you please just produce a device that follows your theory the best.  If you do not know how to use a drill, I will borrow from your own language, and suggest you bribe a friend with dinner and fine wine, and maybe someone will help you actually build this thing.

You have been preaching this stuff since when, 2005, earlier?  So far, nothing has come of it.  You will see much faster results if you have something to show besides controversial equations.  It is obvious at this point, so much time has passed and Wang Shum Ho's ideas will never pass the government's "validation", so it is time for you to, as you call it, shine.

Nothing fancy is necessary.  Just a simple pendulum that can somehow sustain itself through Lee-Tseung pulls.  Come on, show us just one self sustaining device that can be replicated and we will all bow down and chant the Lee-Tseung mantra.

Dear shruggedatlas and Koen1,

Top Scientists and Engineers have a mindset different from the average.  Their egos are so huge that they seek beyond personal fame and glory.  They feel no need to ?prove themselves? to any one.  They ?know? that they have the ?truth? and that they cannot be wrong.  That conviction comes from years of hard work, dedication and research.

Top Scientists can appreciate the work from others.  They can support blasphemies (or the beginning of Great Truths).  They can stand firm in front of all accusations and ridicule. 

Joseph Newman in USA and Wang Shum Ho in China both spent over 30 years of their lives building and promoting their working prototypes.  Newman fought against the US Patent Office for years.  Wang Shum Ho was luckier.  He got his China Patent because he could show a working prototype even though the invention was classified as the perpetual motion machine.  However, he did not get financial support and had to sell blood at one time.

Tseung et al helped to promote him since August 2006.  He appeared at Tsinghua University in October 2006; demonstrated his device in front of Chinese Officials in January 2007; got funding as one of the seven energy inventions supported by RMB13 billion.  Two prototypes were sent for certification in October 2007 and the Official Announcement and Certificate should be out soon if there were no technical problems.  Wang Shum Ho is now in the æµ· åâ€" 博 é°² 亞 æ´² è«â€" 壇 as one of the energy experts from China. (Asia Economic Summit in Boao, Hannan Island)

From the South China Morning Post (English Newspaper in Hong Kong)
Hu, Siew break the ice across the Taiwan Strait
Trade is focus of highest-level Beijing-Taipei talks since 1949

Kristine Kwok in Boao Apr 13, 2008
A new chapter in cross-strait relations began yesterday when President Hu Jintao held talks with Taiwanese vice-president-elect Vincent Siew Wan-chang - the highest-level contact between mainland and island leaders since a bitter civil war separated them nearly 60 years ago.


Pirate88179

Wow! A Professor Whoflungdung look-alike contest.  I wonder who won?

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
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Localjoe

GET THIS ONE - Bush wants to stop Iran from enriching uranium .. now as oberman said and others any drunk coke head can find out how to do this not just bush.

Also in reality Google has provided this info for some time.. so heres my point.

It's OK for GOOGLE TO PROVIDE INSTRUCTIONS FOR URANIUM ENRICHMENT but not OK FOR FOLKS TO SHARE TORRENTS OF MUSIC THEY POTENTIALLY OWN> AS WELL THEIR GOODS SHOULD BE SEIZED AND CHECKED AT AIRPORTS For copyright infringement.. ?????

This is the world we live in. More concerned if some exec doesn't get his buck than if some terrorist blows us to hell..