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Bob Boyce TPU thread

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Grumpy

#175
October 07, 2007, 05:29:34 PM
Too much writing for me to keep up with today, so I'll just get to the point.

When I say "electrostatic" I mean like in the phenomenon of "electrostatic induction" like Tesla used, and he found that the electrostatic inductive effect was (i.e. the amount of current induced) determined by the frequency and the potential - only.  This form of induction was a hot issue back in the late 1800's - fascinating research back then that is scarcly heard of now.

A DC "potential" does not provide "electrons" as there is no current and no drift.  A DC "bias" would provide electrons but a DC "potential" provides a "scalar electrostatic potential" (i.e. a tension or pressure in the ether).  So when you apply a DC potential to the second you are increasing the pressure around/along it.

Might help to look up the history of "displacement current" - how Maxwell came up with it and how it was never detected in his lifetime. 

Bob's choice of wire insulation may be important after all.


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eldarion

#176
October 07, 2007, 05:37:33 PM
All,

I separated the grounds of the signal generator and the HV supply as instructed.  This time, no overunity, but my odd pulsing waveform is back and stable.

What I did was I tied the ground of the signal generator and the 12V inverter input ground together, and left them floating.  This unfortunately required me to unplug the CRT monitor, as there is an Earth ground connection inside the monitor that was connecting the FPGA ground to Earth ground.  Hopefully an LCD monitor will not have this connection...

One end of the HV DC potiential (160V) was connected to Earth ground (I chose to ground the "+" end first, but switching which lead was grounded made no difference).  The other end was connected to the secondary winding.  The other end of the secondary winding was connected to a 0.0047uF DC blocking capacitor, and then to a 470-ohm load resistor, then Earth ground  The scope ground was connected to Earth ground, and the other end of the probe went to the nongrounded end of the resistor.

Disconnecting either lead of the HV bias caused the pulsing to stop immediately.  Disconnecting the power to the inverter caused the pulsing to dimish as the HV potential diminished.  Plugging the CRT monitor into the FPGA (thereby connecting both grounds to Earth ground again) caused the pulsing to vanish immediately.

I have attached two small videos of the effect, one at an expanded timebase and one at a smaller timebase.

The settings were:
1x-2x-4x frequency, 50KHz 1x frequency, 0?-121.0?-242.0? phasing, 160V DC HV potential, 499ns pulse width.
Scope was set to 5V / vertical division, 1us / horizontal division in the last video.
All of the non-driven primary coil ends were connected to +13.8V, as open-ended drive did absolutely nothing.
Power draw was about 4.14 watts for everything, including the inverter.

So, my question is, does this pulsing mean that something is trying to work, and if so, how do I force it the rest of the way into full overunity mode? ;D

Eldarion
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Grumpy

#177
October 07, 2007, 07:40:12 PM
Bob is the expert, but the educated guess says:

Adjust freq. to try to find a sweet spot.

Decrease pulse width.
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eldarion

#178
October 07, 2007, 08:39:15 PM
Quote from: Grumpy on October 07, 2007, 07:40:12 PM
Bob is the expert, but the educated guess says:

Adjust freq. to try to find a sweet spot.

Decrease pulse width.

Hi Grumpy,

I have already tried that--there was some variation with frequency, but it never came anywhere close to overunity operation.

The pulsing does seem very dependent on the blocking capacitor--substituting a lower impedance capacitor greatly diminished it.

Eldarion
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Bob Boyce

#179
October 07, 2007, 09:03:34 PM
The term HV potential is accurate, while the term HV bias only applies if that HV potential is also providing the HV bias to a hydroxy gas cell stack as the water entraining potential.

Eldarion, you have not mentioned what if anything you are reading as outputs from your other longitudinal windings.

Applied pulse width may be set for 500 ns, but what is the actual pulse width at the primary? Have you checked this to see? You may have to increase pulse width or decrease pulse width based on the response time of your drive electronics.

Bob
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