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Overunity Machines Forum



Experimenting with Double Helix HHO

Started by IronHead, July 28, 2007, 01:17:27 PM

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d3adp00l

any new videos of any systems running?
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JamesThomas

I sent a message with link via youtube to FordEnergy, inviting him here to discuss this with us. Hope he has time to join in.

I have always thought that the positive/negative charged flat-surfaces needed to be in close proximity (as in traditional plate design) to allow for the electrolysis action to occur. The helix design seems to blow that theory away. Very interesting. I'll be posting my experiments with this design here as well, as soon as possible....which could be awhile. Look forward to all you other fine folks' work to be posted here.

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IronHead

Not necessarily . The reaction happens at the edges more so then anywhere else on this Cell type . The edges are close together . This is why I say I don't think this type of Cell should be sealed off. The Gas production is not as High as it seems.  It is more of an illusion so far than anything else ,as it is pouring off the edges very fast but little off the surfaces . So we see alot of gas coming from a very small area with alot of sound as well. I think that if the strips were
grove cut the full length  and then wound up , this thing would really start to roll some gas off.

So far this huge Helix Cell is not producing as well as the small S-Cell. But there is room for major improvement , improvements that could make this a top producer if not "The" top
producer.

This Helix Cell is worth alot of attention for further study. I encourage everyone
to build and learn from this design.

If you ain't builden it then you ain't learnen it!
IronHead

europeanhillbilly

Hey hey everyone, got some news!

Just tested my first (acceptable) double helix. I tried it with an RC car battery charger (sticker says output is 7.2v and max. 1.5A - voltmeter reads 9.7 volts - couldn't measure the amps as the charger won't turn on with amp meter in between).
It looks like it's producing a nice amount of gas considering the voltage and possibly the amperage. The RC car battery charger doesn't get as hot as it does when charging a battery pack, so I guess the cell isn't pulling max amps from it.

I did make a video with my mobile phone - unfortunately the quality really is unbearable. It would be useless to show it, as the impression from this video may be far away from what it looks like in reality. However, I'm going to repeat this with a MiniDV cam for decent quality.

I hardly get any large bubbles, but the water gets clouded very quickly. So I have to agree with IronHead that the immense gas production could be an illusion. Still have to try higher voltage (no car battery (+charger) at hand, possibly tomorrow... step by step :) ).

@IronHead: Any videos maybe? :)
QuoteI think that if the strips were grove cut the full length  and then wound up , this thing would really start to roll some gas off.
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. Could you please give an example in text or graphics? I always want to learn from the masters :)

@keithturtle: Any news from the edge tests? The nibblers I know turn the cut metal into a spiral behind them. Is it this what you mean? If yes, imagine a bunch of those spirals packed right next to each other at little spacing, then attach + and - in alternation. Lots of edges...

IronHead

Soon , I have alot going on . I will get something going on this asap.