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Weekly Builders Update Diary

Started by Bruce_TPU, July 29, 2007, 03:39:16 PM

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Bruce_TPU

Bob Boyce Build Update Number 2.

Hey guys!  It?s a bummer we all have to wait for August 8, for the next production run of the cores.  But that should give all, continued time proper design and for testing their controllers.  I would recommend that some of you help to get the ?phase? thread going again.  Many of your individual questions can be asked directly to the ?phase? thread.  I would not ask questions publicly of wave forms vs. frequency, because he has stated he will not give that information publicly.  Do not ask him questions about his controller, it is proprietary and he will not give that out.  Coil questions, safety questions, etc.  All of these can be brought to the thread.  Wire questions, gauge, etc can also be brought there.  Please do not ask questions that he has already answered in the .PDF.  Thank you.

If some of you have ?ideas? on the safety features to include in the controller design please send that to me.  Example - Over voltage cut off (What voltage?)  Over Temp cut off (What temp?)  Just minor details like that.. 

NOTES: 
1.  Please remember to start with 120 to 160 volts for your HV bias in the secondary. 
2.  The low voltage bias on the ?first winding? around the circumference is an unknown voltage.  It is a ?static? bias, probably 12 volts or more, but could not see where B.B. specified that.  If anyone finds that please let me know to pass it on.
3.  A public thank you to Grumpy and Jason for sourcing the silver plated copper wire.
4.  Any questions or comments, please PM the individual builder.

Builder Updates:
Bruce:
Two cores ordered, one from two different builders who only wanted one each.  20 awg magnet wire ordered.  Barter made for controller to be built for me (this was great news for me).  Silver wire sourced and soon to be ordered as soon as we have the gauge.

Thaelin:
Well, torrid is wound. Thanks for the rendering, it helped me to figure out what went where. I chose to use the #20 enamel for the field winding and #20 stranded for the rest of the coils. Used 250 feet of iron coated wire for the "ballast" winding.
   Now on to the controller setup. Waiting for Mouser on parts.

  Here is the part that I have to ask you a few questions. I am going to hike the idea for the phase shift from what earl has offered. What needs to be figured out as well is how to get the feed back to work. But that can come in time.  Onward!

Have a themistor to put on the side and going to put in a manual overide that I have to hold on for starts.

My head is really spinning right now trying to comprehend all I just saw. This main winding has a core frequency and I "saw" from the dream this frequency /2/4/8. Drive windings cut to echo back at those frequencies and it makes the bounce from the drive end, hit it again.
   As I said, I am not making much sense right at the moment but it is what I was seeing. This is in turn upsetting the magnetic bias formed in the core and it attempts to relax back to a steady state.

Core is ordered

Rob (and Roberto)
Working on the 3 cases to house the 3 x DDS 20 function generators.
Enquiring about supplier in UK for the 650-52 Micrometals core.

Todo: Build an inverter board for +5V to -5V supply for the DDS 20 board.
Build a duty cycle control board to piggy-back on the DDS 20.
Build an external duty cycle selectable board using "divide by n" and
"binary counter" plus "AND" gates.

Build a board for the 4018/4017 decade counter/divide by n for the controller coils.
Build driver + mosfet board to sit in the centre of the TPU.

New update:
2 x T650-52 cores now on order, should be here by Wed.
The Distributor in the UK is BFIOptilas.co.uk
Cost 19.39 GBP each, UPS courier 7.50 GBP.
So quite a good price.
They now have 3 left in stock if anyone needs one in the UK.

Ward:
Here are things I ordered: 
All Bob B's PWM3 parts, plus phase chips, adaptors, uCntrlrs, high-temp Resin, T650-52, various chips.

RFparts.com (760)744-0700  RG218 coax @ $6.50/ft, x13 ft. makes 4 B3 rings (Spinors #5 & 6), one for practice.

Micro Metals T650-52 ordered for ship Aug 8th. (800) 356-5977 x116 "Missy".  Min order 2 = $68.24.

Epoxy Etc. (seloron.com) PN 50-3186, 220C High Temp Eencapsulating  Epoxy (1 Quart min)  "Screw cap" $43  Plus   950 Cold Cure Catalyst Pack 1Pt min $22.85.

Digikey TI CDC8501 Phase shift / Mult / Divide chips $5 ea. (2.6mUnitsIn phase resolution). x3 pcs

Mouser PN24-351-10  'Aries' chip adaptors SIOC (the CDC8501 above) to throuh hole DIP, $32.19 each x3 pcs. 

Futurelec ARM7024 Mic4ocontroller $44 x3 pcs.  No phone, they answer e-mail.

DEIC420 Gate Drivers from DEIC direct $35.12 ea.  (970)439-1901  These are faster than IRF840's.

@Someone (Rob) contact me about ARM7024 even if you use another... I need a quick tutorial while waiting for it... just got the sample files, manual. - Thx in advance!

Dingus Mungus - New Builder
Just writting back to inform you I am still in the efforts of obtaining the propper equipment and core materials.

Jason - Attached Circuit diagram / Attached timing diagram
Here is an attached copy of my circuit diagram as it stands now. So far, it has the ability to operate in both pulsed mode and rotational mode. There is no build in kill switch to shut it down but I will integrate that into it after I get confirmation from Bob about the timing diagrams.

I do have some questions for Bob.

1. What frequency range should the control board be able to operate in? At the moment, the MOSFET drivers start to bottom out right above 6-700 kHz even though the logic gates can run up into the MHz easily. Specifically, what is the highest frequency that the lowest harmonic should be able to run at?

2. Do you have any recommendations for the over voltage protection circuit. I'm trying to think of a way to actually monitor the output of the circuit. I haven't looked much into the voltage sensors though I have a few ideas. What do you recommend? Ultimately, I want something that can just make or break a connection when the voltage gets too high, that way I can use that as a logic signal to enable/disable the IC's on the board.

Sources for silver plated wire, from Jason:
http://cgi.ebay.com/CRAFT-30-YARD-OF-24ga-SILVERED-WIRE-METALWORK_W0QQitemZ8174749479QQihZ 020QQcategoryZ41224QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silver-Coated-Beading-Wire-Tiger-Tail-38mm_W0QQitemZ220131859114QQihZ0 12QQcategoryZ67718QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://www.alphawire.com/pages/254.cfm

Grumpy:
Mil spec number for Teflon coated solid copper wire with silver plating is MIL-W-16878 - Google this and you get plenty of hits.   This place carries it:  http://www.weicowire.com/specpage.asp?nGroupID=190   I recommend searching for surplus - stuff ain't cheap.   PTFE is "Teflon".  FEP is very similar compound.  The silver plating s what matters.   Have not had a chance to work on ring since I got back from vacation, but did get my cables to run both sig gens.  There may be some sort of interesting effect when pusing both the DC bias and running the RMF - ask Bob if he has tried this - don't want to blow anything up.   Interesting reading if you get bored: http://home.wanadoo.nl/raccoon/   

GK:
Working on his controller.  He posts all pictures and descriptions on his thread.

Mike:
Sorry I had a hard week at work and I really couldn?t accomplish much. I still in the state of getting parts together and thanks for the torriod supplier for BBs ring.

Otto:
Killed his controller,  and oscillator pulsing a magnetic amplifier.  On vacation.

Mark:
Has ordered a core in Australia

Wer:

have ordered all parts but the  6 irfps3810 for 2 units
digi-key had 0 and miniman of 50 at 10.00 us each
do you know of a sub. 

and the 3006p-104-nd needs to be 3006p-104lf-nd  for lead free.

have not checked on  curket board yet

may need to split that too

all electronic parts ordered but the 3 hexfets working on that, be some time in august before the cores get here. need to order the board  but they want a large setup fee, need to see if some of us will pool togeather to get the boards. need to order the wire.

EM: 
On vacation

Hank:
Has ordered two cores from micrometals
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bruce_TPU

Bob Boyce Build Update Number 3.

I hope that we work first towards exact replication first and not change a ?working? OU device until we first have a ?working? OU device!  Of course your own experiments are vital with any coil, and to post the results, as long as we are all also building the Bob Boyce TPU, exactly to specs.  Thank you.

NOTES:
1.  If you have questions how to power the bias winding or dc potential in the secondary now it the time to ask Bob.
2.  Eldarion has offered FREE software programmed for what the controller needs if you choose to go that route!
3.  A public thank you to Bob B. for all of his assistance with this project!
4.  Any questions or comments of individual builds, please PM the individual builder.
5.  Once your core has come in, if you start your own thread for pictures, experiments, etc.  That will be your update and will simply be referenced in the builders update, as I have done with GK and Eldarion.  Thank you.   

Builder Updates:
Bruce:
Two cores ordered, address given for shipping, one from two different builders who only wanted one each.  20 awg magnet wire arriving any day.  Barter made for controller to be built and programmed.   Silver wire soon to be ordered. Bees wax toilet seal picked up.
It was actually 2 wax replacement rings.  100 percent wax, no plastic, or anything.  Found it at Lowe?s for $1.24 US each.  About 1 lb. of wax each.  Not bad.

Working with Eldarion at firing up our three phase coil, today or tomorrow.  Working with Eldarion as he programs in the needed safety features to be monitored.  A battery of experiments planned.  Hoping for OU, without the lightning.

Eldarion  - New Builder
His controller and info can be seen on his thread.  He has wound our concept coil and is soon to fire it up.  He has also finished building the DC supply for the potential and bias.  He is programming some safety features into the chips.  His core is ordered.  Life is good!

Thaelin:
Well as I stated, seems my errant parts were sent on a long journey to ME. They will be sent as soon as they are retrieved. Will be finishing up the controller this next few days off. Will hook up to the old torrid I built just to get a feel on how it flys. Attached is a pic of the torrid even tho Bob said it is a waste of time due to the type of wire I used.

Since I will be starting out with a new torrid core, I feel comepelled to go ahead and order new wire as well to make it with. Not sure when that will be here but dont really need it until I get the core anyhow.

6" PVC with 7 layers of coated iron wire for the core
Bias wind was #20 enamel wire
Black wire was a full circular wind of #20 stranded
Red wires are 3 sections of #20 stranded.

As stated Bob said that the stranded would ruin the wind so just will play around with it a bit to see what happens while waiting for the fe cores.


Rob (and Roberto) Team
Roberto:  Now please be informed that starting from the first of August I'll be in vacation with all my family and I'll come back on the first week of September. I'll be in places without Internet so may be I'll not able to follow this thread in real-time.

Rob:  I have received my cores now (T650-52) and they are quite heavy, about 6KG each.


Ward:

Researching DDS 20 alternative. Working on possible uCntrlr managed
external phase shift using 200MHz GAL's.  This will truncate pulse width
to 5nS increments (if that's OK), but should solve phase with 5nS
resolution.  Only other way I know is the CDC5801 phase chips with
oodles of control pins.  Purchased remaining driver components.



Dingus Mungus -
Another quick update...

The T650-52 cores are currently out of stock but due in on 8-15-07. In the mean time I'll be recieving 2 smaller alt core sizes. Also, I recieved my scope today, and plan to start works on JDO's harmonics demo.

Jason -
My build update is the article I wrote. Not much experiments beyond what I discussed due to time limits but there will be more to come soon. I am interested in looking more into the blocking oscillator approach to pulse my coils since I found that the can produce the same kinds of spikes as my 'fancy' controller but in a much simpler way. My suspicion is that I may be able to gang three of them together with their three trigger coils wrapped onto a single toroid and the fourth one being the pulse coil from the 'master' oscillator. In this way, I can trigger the other two oscillators off of the first one and easily produce the synchronized phase shifts. But again, this is all just a guess at the moment until I test it out.


Grumpy:
REwound primaries to encompass a full 90 degrees rather than the previous wind of about 30 degrees with overlapping windings on each pole.   EAch pole is 16 wraps, 36 in the secondary - all are bifilar series - like Tesla's patent for electromagnets.  Still 24 awg primaries with 14 awg secondary.   Got the biases worked out and hope to test fire it tonight or tomorrow morn - whichever time allows.   Also, have pics and will post tonight when connection is better.

GK:
Re working his controller.  He posts all pictures and descriptions on his thread. ?Lord of the Rings?

Mike:
Bruce I've bee extreamly busy at work, so time hasen't been on my side .
I've placed the order for the toriod and still getting parts. The one thing is I don't want to read any thing in Bobs post. I'm trying to replacate as
close as possable so geting all the right parts are nessary (as Bob
stateted- everyone has to replacate the same ) Mike    progress is slow but it's still progress !  Mike  PS by the way i was in good foutune and got for free 6 analog volt and amp meters and some other goodies !!

Otto:
Otto is on Vacation

Mark:
  I got my core -- it's a monster! Trouble is not enough time now -- I head of for the US in just over a week and I'll be there for 3 weeks and then have international visitors for two weeks when I get back -- so there goes most of August.

Wer:
I have received all  the electronic parts.   waiting on cores   still need wire   if anyone going to using bb boards  with silk screening will order 4 it is cheaper than 2  need to let me know

EM:

EM wrote to me and is on Vacation

Hank:
I am still acquiring materials. I'll be on vacation next Wed thru 8/8. So I won't have anything to update you until perhaps mid Aug.

Tao - New Builder
Still studying PDF, and sourcing all the proper materials....

Amiel - New Builder
I have ordered the toroids (2) the should ship by 8/10 also am going in with Ward for some euro controlllers.  Ordering wire from florida. Went in with ward for dds ad9959 4 channel. deciding on fets and drivers. had to format my cpu this week so i have been offline. almost all week. back up today. practicing winding on a wheel.

1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bruce_TPU

Bob Boyce Build Update Number 4.

It will not be long, before our cores arrive.  I would encourage precision over speed in the winding of your core.  I do not think it will be helpful to us or Bob B. to have 16 separate build threads, so perhaps at that time, Eldarion can change the name on his build thread to something more universal if he does not mind and we can all post there.  This will make it much easier for Bob B. to keep up with only one thread, as well as ourselves.   We should all post pictures of our wound coils. 

I have decided to add the Top, Bottom and Inner longitudinal windings to my cores, in case his experiment works and there is output from these.  I would encourage all of you to do the same.  If it works, you will regret not having it and will want to wind another one.  On the other hand, if it does not work,  there is nothing lost, just some extra wire left there.  Thank you.

NOTES: 
1.  If you have questions how to power the bias winding or dc potential in the secondary now it the time to ask Bob.
2.  Eldarion has offered FREE software programmed for what the controller needs if you choose to go that route.  The zip file can be found on his website.
3.  A public thank you to Bob B. for all of his assistance with this project!
4.  Any questions or comments of individual builds, please PM the individual builder.
5.  Once your core has come in, if you post on our future group builders thread for pictures, experiments, etc.  That will be your update and will simply be referenced in the builders update, as I have done with GK and Eldarion.  Thank you.   

Builder Updates:
Eldarion and Bruce - Partners
Discovered that my wax seals I had purchased are indeed a petroleum based wax, and not bees wax, when I called the mfg. to verify.  Purchased some beeswax chips from health food store, and will melt into a block.  Awaiting cores.  Finished the builders .PDF.

Working with Eldarion on a proper schematic of how the toroid should be wired.  This will then be sent to Bob B. for his confirmation or correction.  We have decided what safety cut offs we are going to have added to the controller, as well as sensors to automatically fine tune and adjust the phase to keep it in line with the timing diagram coming out of the primaries.   Eldarion?s controller and info can be seen on his thread.  Also, my future controller will be identical to Eldarions. 

Thaelin:
Sadly, I had a blood sugra drop and did some time in the bed trying to coop from it. Back to norm now and on the bench building the controller tonite. Will have a pot for duty cycle, two pots for frequency one coarse and one fine with a hidden small one for phase shift when I figure how far is save to shift it. Need more discussion in that area.
   Getting really tweaked up for the torrids. Will be ordering 200' of each size of the silver coat about the 8th so as to try and have it all show up about the same time.

   Just a heads up in advance, I will be vacationing Aug 20 to the 28 in BC. Then a 4 X 12 work week right after so will be out for a bit.



Rob and Roberto - Partners
I have my cores but the function gen. is not in its case yet.
Parts on order for the inverter circuit for the DDS 20 to provide the -5V 100mA supply.
Forgot to order some control knobs, so will do another order to Farnell for those.
Postal strike by Royal Mail may delay things.
Designing the surface mount inverter board in Eagle, quite small, about 20mm x 20mm.
Ward has asked if I will order 4 x DDS 20 kits from ELV and forward to him in the US which
I am prepared to do.
If there are any others that want to do the same I may be able to help out there too.

Roberto is on vacation until the end of August.

Ward:
Final Bill of Materials to be ordered today.  I have asked Jason which value v-divider Pot's his schematic is supposed to show from Build Update 2... I see no KOhm labels.  I alerted him I posted extended phase-adjust idea at his thread at:  http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=1392746#post1392746

@All I need some assistance ordering DDS 20's and DDS 20 kits - Ward.  Please tell everyone.  I'll buy these and distribute them for the benefit of others.  Yes I have already asked MeggerMan Rob to see if he is still game and await his response.  Ask everyone (retain this question to all) @All,  Does anyone see a better choice than DDS 20 for spec's, size, and price? 

I have ordered 2 free samples AD9959BCPZ & companion AD9540BCPZ mentioned by Rob in NonPubTPUarea Reply #24, and seen here:  http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0%2C2877%2CAD9959%2C00.html  Small time e-mail accounts like gmail require manual Samples Request Form routing through Sales, so you can explain why you deserve these.  Ask Sales, they will send form.  See http://www.analog.com/salesdir/continent.asp   My reason for request is 'to develop a USA made competitor for the DDS 20'.   I gave AD the link to DDS 20 so they will understand why development of a competing product is needed .


Summary:
-Received 'Transformer Encapsulating Epoxy' from Epoxy Etc.
-Ordered 16 & 20 solid per BB's spec's and 20AWG Mag Wire from Skycraft.
-Ordered free AD DDS chip samples, and will order Evaluation Board AD9959/PCBZ soon.
-Asked Eldarion here http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2872.new.html#new about his Bias PS improvements and about that little toroid.
-Asked MeggerMan if he'll order DDS 20's and DDS 20 Kits for me.  I am willing to buy and distribute to others needing these.
-Asked Jason for Pot' values he is using in his BBtpuBuildUpdate2 schematic (not labeled).
-Deciding on pulser ckt and how to get it to work with 6 poles vs 3.
-Making final Bill of Materials and ordering today I hope.



Dingus Mungus (Chris)-
(networking question) Are there any other BB-TPU builders in Arizona?

Still waiting on the t650 core, but I'm still having a tough time locating pools of the mil spec Ag wire... In the mean time I'm doing some practice winding/tests on a 3" core I got yesterday.

Jason -
I just finished finals on Thursday. For now, I'm taking a few days off to let what?s left of my brains cool off. I also have my significant other visiting with me for a few days so I basically will be vegging out for this coming week. I may poke around on Skype in the evening to see what everyone is up to.


Grumpy:
Built.  Ran Johnson Counter circuit today.  Will connect bias tomorrow and see what happens. ;-)

For supplying signals that are of different phase and frequency, the ol' 74HC4017 takes too much peripheral crud.  It is great for same freq rmf straight out of the gate, so I will still test with this first with same freq and no phase adjust unless I do it at the coils.   With quad flip flops I'm thinking I can combine the long output of a Johnson counter with the overall counting action of a regular register.  Each pphase would be it's own Johnson configuration and it will sequence through them.  74AC175 has both normal and inverted output to allow this sort of setup.  They also run at high freq - 100+ MHZ - so very fast transision times - low ns.  Phase can be adjusted easily between the FF phase sections with RC or LC methods which I can't do with the 4017.  (Poor Man's TPU controller.)   I wound my DC magnetic bias coil on a cardboards core so that I can slip it over the entire ring.  It is twice as tall as the ring and I can adjust it up and down - not that this will make a difference - just want to get a good straight vector of magnetic bias across the ring.  (Yeah, could have gone Helmhotz with it.)   I do have a few picture - need to download them off the camera and post.  Kinda wanted to wait until it is actually running, which will take less than an hour but I need the free time.

GK:
Re working his controller.  He posts all pictures and descriptions on his thread. ?Lord of the Rings?

Mike:
Hi there Bruce , It's been a worllwid aroud the plant for the last 2
weeks.  so late nites at work  has been the norm. Open a glass plant and
you'll never be board hahahaha!  I'm going to the hardware store in the
morrning and have to be in the plant for a few hours, Then I'm going to sit down to the TPU bizzz and get that winding on my smaller unit, and possabile
the other wining. I'm really exited to just see what it looks like and get to play around with those 2 windings. I know this one is not the real thing but who knows it just might work ! any who good luck and thank you -your doing a great job being the glue in the group and always look forward to getting your Emails .

Otto:
Otto is on Vacation

Mark:
On Vacation until the end of August.

Wer:
still waiting on cores waiting on boards   all other needed part are here.   lot of reading sill to do.   Thanks  to all.

EM: 

On Vacation.

Hank:
Awaiting Core, practicing winding.

Tao -
I too have been doing a lot more reading and still sourcing some of the last components. Lot of 'real life' issues, but making progress...

Amiel -
No real building this week. Lots of reading and trying to keep up with
the ever changing parts list and surfing for comparable parts. Hopefully
toroid and wire will arrive next week.


1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bruce_TPU

Bob Boyce Build Update Number 5.

I am having modem problems, and my computer is in the shop.  That is why the slow posting of this weeks build update.  Sorry about that.

Our cores should be arriving this week!!  I would encourage precision over speed in the winding of your core.  I would also remind everyone in the Northern Hemisphere to make sure that you wrap the coils CCW from Top to Bottom. 

Eldarion and I have decided to add the Top, Bottom and Inner longitudinal windings to our cores, in case Bob's experiment works and there is output from these.  I would encourage all of you to do the same.  If it works, you will regret not having it and will want to wind another one.  On the other hand, if it does not work,  there is nothing lost, just some extra wire left there. 

We have also decided to wrap 6 primaries, and not just three, because we will want to also experiment with Bob's Hex controller.

Bob, we look forward to seeing your last wrapping of the primaries!  I am also adding the diagram that Bob corrected, for the coil connections, to both the build page and the .PDF

Thank you.

NOTES: 
1.  Connections diagram will be on the build page.
2.  Eldarion has offered FREE software programmed for what the controller needs if you choose to go that route.  The zip file can be found on his website.
3.  A public thank you to Bob B. for all of his assistance with this project!
4.  Any questions or comments of individual builds, please PM the individual builder.
5.  Once your core has come in, if you post on our future group builders thread for pictures, experiments, etc.  That will be your update and will simply be referenced in the builders update, as I have done with GK, Eldarion and Earl.  Thank you.   

Builder Updates:
Eldarion and Bruce - Partners
Worked with Eldarion and Jason on some experiments, while awaiting our cores.  Eldarion?s controller and info can be seen on his thread.  Also, my future controller will be identical to Eldarions.  Simply awaiting cores.

Thaelin:
Just a heads up in advance, I will be vacationing Aug 20 to the 28 in BC. Then a 4 X 12 work week right after so will be out for a bit.

Rob and Roberto - Partners
Roberto is on vacation until the end of August.

At this moment I am soldering together 4 x DDS 20 function generator
boards(kits) for Ward to be shipped out to California on Saturday morning.
I wanted to make sure they are fully working to save on postage if there
is a fault.
I am part way through the design of a -5V inverter board for the DDS 20.
When the artwork is complete, that will be 6 boards for Ward, 1 for
Roberto and 3 for myself.
Size wise, they are 15mm x 42mm and all surface mounted.
It allows a single +12v supply for the DDS 20.
I now have all the logic chips, drivers, mosfets and 2 cores so once I
have the DDS 20's into cases I can started winding and testing.
Sorry that progress is slow but I am getting there.

Ward:
Working on FET Driver Bds.  Working on GAL timing Vs uCntrlr.  Seeing
that tp900 is ready.  Buying enough components to make various other
pulsers in case desired.  Awaiting DDS 20's and donuts.

I seek making sweepable F1 from 12X derived 4X / 2X, so only one CLK
source needed.  For now, 2 DDS 20's will be used, one just for 1X.

Will ship your donut as soon as received.  Will use BB's wax and save
Dr's High-temp Encalpsulating Resin for post BBtpu variations.  Otto
warns this thing will get very very hot... and probably melt all that
wax it seems.

Dingus Mungus (Chris)-
I'm still just ordering parts listed by yourself or BB. I plan on doing no controller design as I plan to build the "hex controller" hinted at earlier in the thread. My goal here is to validate that BB's torroid and driver works in his given configuration, and then I will be devoting my time to quantifying the CoP and independently validating his work. In my research I'm working on the telsa wireless broadcast right now, but need to start work on a new driving circuit soon. I need to get in contact with camster about his demo unit I think...

Jason -
Working on figuring out the final parts of the controller.  Waiting for core. 

Grumpy:
Awaiting core. 

GK:
On Vacation.  He posts all pictures and descriptions on his thread. ?Lord of the Rings?.

Mike:
??

Mark:
On Vacation until the end of August.

Wer:
All materials are in  and  working on  Bob's controller design,
still waiting on core.  Reading all I can on  phase shifting.

Hank:
Awaiting two Cores, practicing winding.  Awaiting wire's arrival.

Tao -
Fortunately and unfortunately, I will be going on vacation for about 2+
weeks. With minor breaks of a day or two in between here or there.

Amiel -
Obtained magnet wire, ordered silver wire, ordered 2 dds-20?s. Toroids should ship yesterday. Got the Beeswax and tape.If all goes well, will start assy next week.

Earl -
Welcome Earl!  Earl's build update can be seen on his thread, "Earl's Corner."


1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bruce_TPU

Bob Boyce Build Update Number 6.

Accidently deleted by me.  I will rebuild this at a later date.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.