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Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...

Started by tao, August 08, 2007, 01:44:36 PM

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sebosfato

Hello guys i would like to invite you to my thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4617-stanley-meyer-true.html

Here i released the basic information about the way meyer did to achieve 1000x efficiency electrolysis.

I ask for donations so if you can please donate it will help a lot. I decided to come here and advert you about it. 

Answer he didn't used high voltage between the plates. He talked about this to confuse people.
40kv at 1ma = to 40 watts right ?
How about 4000 amps at 0,01volts
would not it be = to 40w?

The key is how to pass this huge current thru water at this very low voltage. You would need very high surface on the plates and...

Info about this here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4617-stanley-meyer-true.html
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CrazyEwok

to the OP... Single wire transmission of power is not new... i use it every day... putting 2 diodes on the end and calling it Zero ampere Voltage is a joke. Its just a really simplified, and dangerous, rectifier. And i am appauled that it wasn't picked up straight away. There are methods of creating massive voltage differences with low ampere. Look it up it has nothing to do with collapsing magnetic fields (though this is a way to do it, it is also a way to loose a lot of your energy as heat from your conductor resistance). You want static electricity as a means of high voltage and low amps.
And to the last poster... WOW another glass jar experimenter claiming the all knowing about the Meyers effect... ZZZZzzzZZZzzz and your asking for money!!!

CrazyEwok

And to further my responses to the follow on posters...
Those claiming to be producing more gas then Mr Meyers. if you have the same or exceeded his out put maybe look at your delivery... To look at his HOME MADE buggy and say yeah i can't run my 5.4 litre camero on the same rig would be a massive oversight. A few points for you
1. His is a home made engine... i would "guess" (this is an observation pointed out to me by someone who is a close friend of mine who also builds engines for his own use) that the compression ratio for that engine is very high... if you want high compression on your standard engine get yourself a form of compressor (super charger/turbo).
2. You may think you understand but until you build somethign that works the same witht he same results you don't. Now i am not saying what he has is special what i am saying is unless your unit works on his same principals and your getting close to the same output you don't KNOW anything you THINK.
3. There are many ways to skin a cat, this is just an idea if you have a different one good make a new thread, i didn't click on this one to read about something else.
4. Lets argue about what he said and what he meant... in fact lets make a debate about it... then we all can join in en mass... you'll have the same effect!!! we'll call it a Mass-debate.

Get on with it. I have now got a "generator" with an output just shy of 1000v and a measurable amp push of ~1milliamp. The plans are freely available all over the internet.


lancaIV

Water as fuel :
home-depot 800 Watt electric genset 150 Euros

water hydrolysis converter for the above gen-set 100 Euros (~ gun-engine device)

gen-set lifetime by "ordinary" fuel use : 8000 hours
estimated work-life by hotter and more radical hydrogen 4000 hours max.,uncoated engine


the water-fuel engine KWh-electric generating costs : minimum < 10/ > 9  Euro-cents

250 Euros, 3,5 years work-life ,4000 h x  0,8 KW,2,5% investment tax
250 x 0,31 : 800 KWh p.a.~ 9,7 €cents/KWh




water as fuel : earth batteries with less precision need are also in that price level and less

5 Euro-cents or 5,5 US$cents/ KWh has to be the first economic target : US b2b electricity average price