The truth about "overunity".

[Navi-gator]

There is a time and place for everything and this fund drive is nearing its end.

How come he still asks for $2,000,000 for any individual to *see* his invention? It's crazy!

I said it was nearing its end, only Dante really knows.

Because he has a ME and a Physics professor who both say his powerplants will revolutionize energy as we know it today.

Why would those two put their neck on the line for a scam?

[Navi-gator]

So, Navigator, you are not connected with Dante in any way, right?
?Right on the money, Sir!? 
(My English is very poor. Should I say 'Right to the money, Sir'?  )

Other than E-mail, the desire to stop global warming and releasing the grip the middle east has on our country because of oil, no.

EDIT, oh and the fact that my donation has already secured my fist right of refusal to get a license to lease the first powerplant in my area.

In fact, this looks more and more like the well-known all-explicative and universe-existential lead-out theory.
It?s marvelous in essence but? infantile in substance and it produces nothing but futile discussions and insults.

I can think of a few discoveries that were seen in that light prior to being proven fact.

I?ve kindly asked Stefan on page 1 of the initial thread ?onegift4power? to mark it as a fraud and I strooongly keep my position day by day, post by post, page by page. There are already ten pages and counting?
Meanwhile, the great Bernoulli is turning around into his grave asking himself wtf is Dante?!

Tinu

I am sorry you feel that way, what was that phrase Einstein used to say?

[tinu]

I can think of a few discoveries that were seen in that light prior to being proven fact.

Here is a great discovery of our times: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3086.0/topicseen.html
Read it and tell about it to Dante. Tell him either to patent his idea, if any (which I strongly doubt), or to present it in scientific peer-review or to simply submit it to public scrutiny but stop trying mutilating any great scientist of our history for money, in a day-light huge fraud!

If you can not follow the above thread and still concerned about the oil issue, it?s probably best to take a job in farming and produce your own bio-diesel. It would be much more productive, take my word for it.

Apart for what was already said, the whole story you promote is plain BS and someone should stop this thread asap.
Please, Stefan, take our pain here off!

Tinu

[HopeForHumanity]

NG,

Regarding Dante's comments about my post;

It's unfortunate that he must stoop to such levels to make his point...that is if there was a point.

YES, many have proved a small amount of overage, which they erroneously call ?OVER-UNITY?, but cannot even prove this, with scientific words, naming the energies they use, but no one to date, that I know of, has DEVELOPED And DELIVERED 5000WATTS of electricity,) and his numbers are right, 104% efficiency rating, BUT, I think you glossed over the part before this, the ?first? Power Plant to be re-constructed in 40 odd years, where he states a 50 to 90% under wattage for the same 10HP electric motor, which would, at 50%, give an efficiency rating of some 134%, more than enough for the entire Power Plant to run itself, and if the 90% figure is reached, the efficiency rating would be some 671% efficiency rating, 571 % ?OVER-EFFICIENCY?

I think that was his point, however I agree he is sometimes over coarse . People like Dante are the way they are for a reason, they think, talk, act uniquely and often it comes across abrasively, but more often than not it is unintended. I think after nearly fifty years of this, at the age of 72, he has lost his patients and can't say that I blame him.

OMG! This is funny!

"People like Dante are the way they are for a reason, they think, talk, act uniquely and often it comes across abrasively, but more often than not it is unintended."

Sorry buddy, but I have a diagnosed disorder that has to do with unintended rudeness. To me, Dante just acts stupid. Somebody who won't even attempt to join a forum obviously has something to hide. Whether it be his precious, or his scam, he isn't even attempting to help this forum out. This thread has done nothing but cause retardation. TESLA WAS NOT LIKE DANTE AT ALL.

[Navi-gator]

TO PUT THE OVER-UNITY QUESTION TO REST, ONCE AND FOR ALL.  BY DANTE A. DONATELLI JR.

Since this thread has been up, dozens and dozens of nay Sayers have answered it.

MY statement was, and still is: ?there is no such thing as OVER-UNITY, in any device, machine and especially, NOT in any Power Plant?

Now, in as simple of terms as I can, I will explain our ?SOLID-POWER? Technologically designed Power Plants, using simple scientific terms, not the erroneous and unproven one?s that are drudged up from men?s minds!

Our  Power Plants  RUN THEMSELVES, with no added fuel, and PROVE, WITHOUT BLOVIATING or USING PHRASE THAT ARE ONLY IN MEN?S MINDS, and have been for centuries, BUT CANNOT BE PROVED, ?over-unity? doesn?t exist, but rather ?OVER-EFFICIENCY? exists!

Specifically speaking, the EM-5000 Power Plant ONEGIFT4POWER was given.

The EM-500 starts with a 10HP Electric Motor, because according to engineering principles, already proven, a 10HP Electric Motor can run, at full capacity, a 5000 watt Electrical Generator.

This 10HP uses 7450 watts of ELECTRICAL ENERGY, (the FIRST (1), energy system of this power plant, followed by four more, as the EM-5000 uses ?5- energy systems within itself.)  This electrical energy is CONVERTED to 5500 foot-pounds of MECHANICAL ENERGY, (2). 

THIS IS THE 100% UNITY, OF THIS MOTOR and IN FACT, THE ENTIRE POWER PLANT.  THIS IS all that is needed to start, from a dead stop, the Power Plant. 7450 watts, converted to 5500 foot-pounds!

Once the EM -5000  is operating, at full speed, the 10HP motor, has the watts REDUCED to 745 watts, and the converted mechanical energy, as well, is REDUCED to 550 foot-pounds.  NOW, the INPUT of electrical energy is 90% LESS than UNITY!  WE NEVER ADD TO UNITY, ERGO, OVER-UNITY NEVER EXISTS, BUT WE ADD TO THE REDUCED UNITY,? TO BRING ALL,? BACK UP TO UNITY.

Understand that WE REDUCE the INPUT ELECTRICAL ENERGY from 100% UNITY to 90% of the 100% UNITY, only 10% of UNITY is being used, and converted once the Power Plant is up to speed!

The innovative mechanics we use, and the solid matter object fuel, and the speed we use, ALL, DEVELOP 4950 foot-pounds of our innovative MECHANICAL ENERGY (3), according to the 1807 and 1857 ENERGY discoveries made by old science, not Dante, as ENERGY and POWER CAN BE DEVELOPED, (as one idiot stated that he rolled a ball, and developed energy and power, AND HE WAS RIGHT. A rolling ball can indeed, JUST LIKE A ROLLING AUTOMOBILE, develop energy and power, BUT IT CANNOT BE EXTRACTED, ergo, is a stupid example!)

This 4950 foot-pounds, the 90% of UNITY, is added to the 550 foot-pounds, the 10% of UNITY,  ALL in a flywheel, which holds the 100% UNITY of that which this Power Plant needs and uses, (not that the flywheel couldn?t hold more, as the most it could hold, is the 100% of the FLYWHEELS CAPACITY, but not necessarily the 100% of the EM-5000?s capacity.)

The flywheel, delivers the  added, sum of the 100% UNITY, 5500 foot-pounds of  common, convertible MECHANICAL ENERGY (4), to the Electrical Generator, which converts it into the 100% UNITY of the OUTPUT, the 5000 watts of ELECTRICAL ENERGY (5), thus completing the ?5- ENERGY SYSTEM of the EM-5000 Power Plant.

SO, the 100% UNITY of the OUTPUT, electrical energy of the ELECTRICAL GENERATOR, can in fact deliver the 10% of UNITY the INPUT needs, when running, and have 90% left over to accomplish other electrical energy needed work outside the Power Plant.

ANY WAY THIS IS MEASURED or CALCULATED, it works out to be ?OVER-EFFICIENT?, and NEVER ?OVER-UNITY?.

100% UNITY in any device, machine or Power Plant, in fact in ANY SCENARIO can NEVER BE MORE THAN 100% of that device, machine, etc.  YES, it can first be reduced, then added to, then back up to 100%, BUT, 100% can NEVER BE ADDED TO.

The error is that in ALL the erroneous thinking and erroneous believing,  that if and when they FIND A FREE ENERGY, and claim OVER-UNITY, what is really happening is the FREE ENERGY THEY DISCOVERED, THAT OPERATES THEIR DEVICE(S), IS ACTUAL THE 100% OF THAT FREE ENERGY, AND IF MORE IS USED, THAT and the BEGINNING, is the TOTAL 100% FREE ENERGY USED.

UNITY,?100% OF ANYTHING,? CANNOT BE EXCEED,? OR THAT WHICH IS CLAIMED AS OVER-UNITY,? IS IN FACT,?.THE ACTUAL 100% UNITY.

NOW, THE BIG QUESTION FOR ALL!

CAN YOU RELATE a SCENARIO of any DEVICE, MACHINE or POWER PLANT, USING SIMPLE SCIENTIFIC TERMS and UNITS of MEASUREMENTS - ENERGY and POWER, ANY ENERGY and POWER, WHETHER FREE, REDUCED, DEVELOPED, ADDED, OR EVEN FOUND IN or ON the GROUND, IN the AIR, or EVEN CREATED, THAT YOU OWN or HAVE EVER HEARD OF.

OR, ARE YOU STILL GOING TO TELL US, WITH STUPID RHETORIC,  WHY WE ARE WRONG?

If NOT, then I AM RIGHT.  PERIOD!

There is no such thing as ?OVER-UNITY?.  Period!

Dante