The truth about "overunity".

[Navi-gator]

This will go nowhere.

Time will tell...

[HopeForHumanity]

Wow "navigator",

Took you 7minutes and 30seconds to copy and paste some text? Takes me around 5 seconds. Why would it take you 7minutes and 30seconds to copy some text? Maybe you typed that post!

Next time, pre type the posts so there isn't a large hangtime in between the post rants.

I was never very good at this forum thing, but you can believe what you want. I really don't care because its the substance, not the format, that is important. I first found his site in February and followed his news releases for two months before contacting him in April.

No where has the substance of what he claims been found to be untrue, and only labeled impossible by those who have never seen his powerplants and those that teach that the laws of physics are absolute.

I post this because I believe we are on the verge of a technological revolution, and the term overunity is only an oxymoron that further confuses things.

I am sure an eduacated person of average intelligence can easily decode overunity. OMG! It is just an overbalanced energy ratio. It's so confusing, I failed fractions in grade school.

[Iosh]

This will go nowhere.

Time will tell...

Time will end telling the tale of a man who could not stop talking about how great he thought himself to be instead of a man who really helped the world with his discoveries.
But, of course, I'm completely eager to be wrong.

[Navi-gator]

What you call over-unity, I call unity. Even if it uses the sun or wind, free energy, it is still working as designed. The machine is working at its 100%, designed compacity, that is unity.

The only way over-unity can be achieved, if you combine the literal definition of each, is on accident.

I follow Dante's work, simply because he hasn't said one thing that anyone has proven wrong. I heard one time, that it can take repeating something seven times for some humans to grasp what was said.  I think Dante heard the same quote.

This site has everyone in the World who believes in it and maybe science will be progressed.  It has been stated that any two contradictory scientific statements, that can be discussed rationally, progresses science, and this has been happening for centuries.

After all, Dante is alive and has already been validated as discovering one of the greatest discoveries of the twentieth century, the "Mechanifoil", the vertical airfoil.  Have you ever heard of a vertical airfoil, that operates exactly like the horizontal airfoil of an aircraft wing, that which uses solid matter in motion, instead of gaseous matter in motion, that makes airplanes fly?

You use dead inventors and discoverers as you have known them, as a matter of fact.
Has Tesla shown you any proof? 

Dante has a website filled with proof, if one wants to read and understand, then ask questions. As far as I know never refused to answer any legitimate question about his New Science or the Old Science that allowed him to discover what he did.

Wow,

This is ridiculous! "There is no such thing as over unity". Well first buddy, OVERUNITY IS JUST AN ENERGY MEASURMENT, so your entire "quest" has just been totaly brought down because you don't understand the damn definition. And holy crap, 2,000,000mil? Maybe if I was total retard! And guess what "navigator"? If he is so concerned and typed that giant ego booster, why doesn't he take his @$$ to the forum. Brilliant people like TESLA don't do what you do! You completely miss understood "level", as did I say higher or lower? NO! So just shut your mouth and stop perpetuating this ridiculous thread. And I mean what person would put this thread on OVERUNITY.com?

Sorry If I was harsh, but please realize how ridiculous this is, people should not have a conclusion until they do the experiments and post ALL the data. Ok?

An answer to ?hope for humanity? post, written by Dante A. Donatelli Jr., object of ridicule and concern: 
 
Sorry I can not do it in as short a space as he ridiculed me in, but I explain everything, thoroughly, not just half-ass like he did.

I hope, sir that the name you choose to hide behind, has meaning.  We do need people who can give ?hope? to humanity!

SO FAR, as I can see it, I am a hope for Earth, and humanity, as I  and ONEGIFT4POWER own the ONLY, TRUE ENERGY ever placed on Earth, by GOD.  Maybe not the only one, BUT THE BEST AS FAR AS I CAN SEE.

I, personally invented TEN Power Plants to develop, extract and deliver this pure, best, original, very abundant and easily accessible, energy. 

That makes me, and onegift4power, the only ?hope for humanity? and for Earth, as I now see it!   What do you rest your laurels on?

If this makes you angry, so be it.  I address this later on in this text, as well.

FACTS  SPEAKING SIR, NOT EGO, but I will address the ?ego? thing, as well, later.

It is obvious YOU know nothing about energy.  You do not know, that I personally found over 18 different definitions/explanations for this ONE term, concept, idea or what ever you want to call it, in only 14 scientific reference books, including the Bible of Science. McGraw-Hill.

I suspect there are a dozen more, in  at least a dozen more than the 14 I used.   You, as most do, think they understand it, but they, in all honesty, and provable as well, do not.

Please, allow me the time to educate you.

First, there are established units for ENERGY, and because science NEVER could separate WORK and ENERGY, the units are the same for both. 

ENERGY is supposed to be the capacity to perform work, but I think this is a misnomer, that science will have to work out.  I have proved, that POWER, the RATE WORK IS PERFORMED, is the true measure of WORK!

The standard units of measure for energy and work are, watts, ergs, joules, and/or foot-pounds.  NEVER has it been written that UNITY is a measurement for ENERGY!  PERIOD!   AND, there are also UNITS of MEASUREMENT FOR POWER!  And guess what, there is only ONE!  Period. 

FOOT-POUNDS!

I would recommend you reading anything you can find about CLASSICAL MECHANICS, as well.

More factual information that anyone can check out.  But, science, physicists especially, do not like the term POWER, and try to find it explained in ANY COLLEGE PHYSICS book.  Engineering books yes, but Physics books, no.  You cannot!  Because it doesn?t exist in the minds of true hard assed scientists.  They use the word, but do not believe in the word.  Their word is ENERGY, period!

Oh, and by the way, the 1807 and 1856 ENERGY discoveries made by science, that which named ENERGY, that which explains ENERGY, that which is the BEST, ORIGINAL and BEST, MORE ABUNDANT ENERGY,  that which uses a ?fuel? as cheap and abundant as dirt,       THAT WHICH CAME BEFORE ANY OTHER FORM OF ENERGY,  IS NOT EVEN ONE OF THE OVER 18  - I FOUND.  In fact, science doesn?t even recognize it.  WHY?  They discovered it. 

Of course, lucky for Earth, and the ?hope for humanity?, I  re-discovered it in 1957, and here we are today.

Next, I have no ?QUEST?!  PERIOD!  The quest I did have, happened in 1957, but I satisfied this one in 1964, when I proved my ?over-efficiency?, and disproved ?over-unity?.  So, your wrong once again.

Next, about my ?giant ego booster?.  Have you ever read the definition of ?ego?, and ?egocentric??

Ego: ?the entire man considered as union of soul and body?.

THAT?S ME! 

Can?t you tell?  I do not have two faces, but ONE, with a very loud mouth, trying to educate the World!   Period!  I don?t hide.  I?m here in Arlington, Texas, etc., etc.

Why?  Because I know what few other humans on Earth know.  I have proved, what no other on Earth has. I have been validated by TWO, World class experts.  That sir, is the body and soul of Dante A. Donatelli Jr.

I DO NOT HAVE TO BOOST IT.  IT IS HIGHER THAN MOST ON EARTH, in the realm of what I know and what I talk about.

Egocentric:    ?the conscious and permanent subject of all experience?.

ME AGAIN! 

I have MORE experience with ?SOLID-POWER? technology than ANYONE in the World has, ergo I am the center of it all.  What?s your level of experience, in all due respect?  Got a college degree?  In what?  Is it worth anything?  Why?

I am NOT knocking degreed people, just so we get that straight, BUT, the MOST INTELLIGENT PERSON in the WORLD, has no degree, why not those, as well, that have discovered what no other person on Earth has.

Next: about my @$$.

The ?forum? I use, is the World.  You may be very surprised to know, that there are people out there that EVEN DISAGREE WITH YOU.  There are people who disagree with me, and ask questions, make legitimate comments, want more.

I ONLY have used the ?forum?, ?www.over-unity.com? because I was led to it.  I do not belong to your group.  I do not want to belong to any group.  As I stated, ?groups? limit mans mind. 

A man who belongs to a ?group?,  cannot express his true feelings,  or even expand that which he may believe in, or subtract from it as the case may be, or he is ridiculed, as you have ridiculed NAVIGATOR.

But, where else would he  post my theory, what HE FELT  I have PROVEN, about ?over-unity?.

I tried Sesame Street, but they couldn?t understand it.

Its amazing, so far, I have had at least five explanations of ?over-unity?, and no one seems to understand what they are saying.  There is no real consensus.  They only repeat what they think they know.  Physics is theory at best.  ?Over-unity? is a phrase that has been used for centuries, and today, no one knows why, because IT DOESN?T EXIST!  Period! 

No wonder, they have such a time with main stream science,  They use impossible, not possible, real impossible and non existing phrase to explain, SOME THING THAT MAY HAVE MERIT, A DEVICE THAT USES A FREE ENERGY, SOMETHING NEW, AS MOST ON YOUR SITE THINK THEY OWN, and I have no problem with this, BUT, to use a phrase, that never existed, cannot be proved it existed, or even exists today, is irrational, at best.

The simple definition of UNITY is: ?one?.  It is 100% of anything.  How can one get more than one,  from one?

A device which claims ?over-unity?, has to be getting more of something, from somewhere, and if he or she could pin point this, then maybe he or she would embrace the ?over-efficiency? theory, I stated.  Until one can use the same reasoning, science, facts and logic, I use in my latest text, ?The FACTS of the EM - 5000?,  as to their device, and I do not give away secrets, it will never be proven.  Reason being, I KNOW what I own, and what I am talking about.

Prove it to me, and I may then be a believer!  Are you scared to, or is it that you just blow smoke and ridicule. Poor defenseless human beings?

He is backed up BY ME!   I CHALLENGE YOU!  I can hold my own!  I own what I claim!  I?ve  met insulting jerks like you before, and a few face to face.

I SHOWED A PART OF WHAT I OWNED TO MAIN STREAM SCIENCE, TWICE.  BOTH AGREED I OWN SOMETHING NEVER BEFORE DISCOVERED.  I WILL WAGER, THAT IF I SHOW IT TO MORE, THESE MORE WILL AS WELL AGREE.

Why is this? Simply because I do own what I claim.  Period, and it isn?t ?over-unity?, even though the Power Plants run themselves, electrically, never use fuel, and will never wear out, but the mechanics will at some point a hundred or two from now!

NEXT, then there is the 2 million dollar thing, that no one seems to get their arms around, no one who has posted supposed answers, that is.

I DON?T WANT 2 MILLION.  I DO NOT NEED TWO MILLION.

It seems that because I am President of a charity, the spokesman, the discoverer, the inventor, that this 2 million, somehow, will end in my pocket.  The I. R. S. doesn?t agree with this thinking, and Dante, who is 72 years young, has no real wanting to end his life on a scamming note.  After all, he is going to meet GOD, and why would he want this to tell HIM about?

Why, would any rational man, ask for a measly 2 million dollars, to propagate a technology worth trillions, when he has already spent, of his own money, near two million of today?s dollars to bring it into existence?

Then why would a charity ask for 2 million dollars, to propagate a gift they were given.  Maybe because they are a charity, duh!!!

Yes, a charity has to beg for money.  EVERY CHARITY ON EARTH has to beg for money.  WHY?  Because they need it to carry out their charitable activity.  PERIOD!

WE, ONEGIFT4POWER, OWN TWO charitable activities:  the first is ?Scientific research for the Public Good?, as listed and approved by the I. R. S.  What have YOU done for the Public Good lately?

WE OWN INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.  We3 need a proverbial drop in the bucket, to propagate this property.   We need to get it to the ?people?!  We need a few peoples help.  Those who cannot do anything by themselves, but by joining ONEGIFT4POWER, and getting, at the very least, a tax deduction, can in fact HELP HUMANITY!  PERIOD!

For those who do not have money, a million is an unattainable amount, but for those who OWN the WORLD?S BEST ENERGY, means for delivery, IT IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET, attainable, and we are on our way to secure it, no matter what you think!

There?s nothing more I can say, except I have to defend ?NAVIGATOR?!

A man posts an idea.  (NAVIGATOR).  He tries his best to offer his opinion.  Others believe in TESLA.  Some believe in EINSTEIN, GALILEO, and NEWTON, but all these are dead!

So, this man believes one who is alive.  One who has been validated.  One who operates like no other.  One who is so sure, he isn?t afraid to say it, with name, rank and serial number, and never has used an ?alias? to talk to others.

One who speaks loud, because it seems there are those, like yourself, that cannot even hear the loud words he speaks.  You seem to need a LOUDER, More egotistical, more what ever, VOICE TO GET threw to you.  FACTS, that are believed by this man.

No matter, there are those who chastise him for his OPINION.  Isn?t this a free country, where web worms like yourself can hide behind your computer and spill out you guile? 

Why cannot he have the same chance.  He believes he is reaching educated, knowledgeable people, but I?m beginning to wonder.  He believes he is getting an important message out, no matter what you think.

Any group that is afraid of the truth, or the truth as an expert sees it, or the opinion of one who states he isn?t an expert, sees it,  sure is a narrow minded group of people.

I am terse,  loud, egotistical, etc., etc., as I have been called worse, because you all are terse against me.  I am a pussy cat, with those who at the very least, respect my rights to express myself, and I think, the same should be extended to anyone, as well.

All this man has agreed to do, besides giving his opinion, good or bad,  for ONEGIFT4POWER is to post my text, as I will not join your group, not because I don?t like you, as I can answer anything you have to say, even your meanness, but because I have never and will never join a ?group?.

Reason being, a group limits a man?s thinking!

That said, however, I must tell you, there is no such thing as ?over-unity?

IF I AM WRONG, PROVE IT TO ME!  Prove it to all those who believe as you do.  Prove it instead of ramping about it, calling me names.

I am sure we will get post, negative posts about what I have already stated, so I will end this post with this:

?I have stated, there is no ?over-unity?, but rather ?over-efficiency?, and although many have answered this, all in negative, and non professional, and non scientific, and non proven ways, NO ONE, AS YET, HAS COME UP WITH any proof THEY ARE RIGHT, and I WRONG.

On the other hand, I HAVE PROVEN, I AM RIGHT, AND NO ONE CAN OR HAS PROVEN ME WRONG!?

If this is EGO TALKING, or anything else that I have been called or accused of, remember one thing, THEY HUNG GALILEO, PEOPLE JUST LIKE ?DINGUS?, and ?JOSH? and  ?BUMBUGGER?, and now, ?HOPE FOR HUMANITY?, AND I mean THEY REALLY HUNG HIM BY HIS NECK for what he stated, and he was a mild mannered man, I understand.  So much for mild manners!.

At least, today, I can only be hung on a website!

Please, for the sake of all those who are reading this and learning, have factual ammunition when you answer this statement that started this entire firestorm, and if the group on www.over-unity.com cannot defend what they believe, then we live in a sorrier World that even I imagined!

Just to say something, means nothing.  To prove what you say, is everything, factual and important, that is.

I am preparing another text, to further prove what we own, and that   ?OVER-EFFICIENCY? is fact, ?over-unity? never did, and never will exist, on Earth, and if anyone wants to read it, I will have it posted herein.  Its called, ?The FACTS ? of the EM-5000, the Power Plant?,  that will change the Earth, save the Earth, and put all dialogue to bed! 

NO ONE IN THE WORLD, can match this text, WITH ANYTHING THEY BELIEVE IS ?OVER-UNITY?.  PERIOD!

Please, if you want to read it, just post a say so, and I will oblige!

Or, email me at answers@onegift4power.org, and I will specifically email it to you!

Even if only one wants to reads it, there?s REAL ?hope for humanity?

Dante.

The true savior of the World, as relates to the environment, energy, fuel and energy source

[z_p_e]

Look NG,

I already explained in plain, simple, and clear terms what overunity means and of course the other related terms such as efficiency at oupower.com.

Your friend can say and believe what he chooses, and so can you.

But some things just can not be twisted from the truth.

First, let me make this clear...there is no such thing as more than 100% efficiency! PERIOD.

Why? Because "efficiency" is simply the ratio measurement of how much of something you get out compared to the quantity of something you put in. It is a measurement that is not even expected to ever be greater than 100%. The best you will ever achieve is a 1:1 ratio, or 100%.

DO NOT CONFUSE EFFICIENCY WITH COP.

The efficiency of a device or system will affect it's COP, but does not necessarily determine if it has a COP>1 or not.

You know what? Let's just forget about and totaly drop the term "overunity" ok? It only seems to cause confusion. As I said in my post, it is far more intelligent to talk in terms of COP. Simple as that.

So, in summary:
- A device or system can never exhibit more than 100% efficiency
- A device or system can exhibit COPs of anywhere from 0.001:1 to 10^100:1

It's simple...not complicated at all, unless we go out of our way to make it so.

Darren