The truth about "overunity".

[Navi-gator]

Many arn't replying to the thread because they think dante is a scam, but because he got the definition of overunity wrong. THATS IT!!! NOTHING ELSE!!! Yet people are becoming very disgruntled by navigator posting the "words" of Dante. Dante calls people who say overunity to be wrong. That the laws of physics are wrong. What he doesn't realize is that the intention of the website is to prove many laws of physics wrong, in an open source way. Plain and simple, we are doing the same thing as dante, changing some laws of physics, but we still use the CORRECT definition of overunity. So why do I get pissed off about this thread navigator? Because it feels more like an attack on the website! Should we start attacking the words Dante uses on his website?

Think about it!

Now think about this!
You get on to the forum www.OVERUNITY.com and create a thread called The truth about "overunity". Then you make the intention of the thread to tell us how the dedinition of overunity is flawed.

Now do you see what I'm saying? It's one of the most rude things you could possibly do on a forum. Go to any forum and call it's title flawed and you will recieve resistance.

Dantes response...

To HopeForH, Reply #69.

Many are not replying because ?YOU? are saying Dante is a scam. 

In reality, and if one wanted to check us out, we are as legitimate as the Red Cross, etc., but have only been around for a few months.

Its easy to call others scammers, or frauds, these are two words the cynics use, but these same cynics HAVE NEVER PROPOSED AN ORIGINAL IDEA IN THEIR LIVES, they just knock those who do.

I have discovered one thing about this site, YOU PEOPLE ARE CYNICAL.  So, when I answer you, I HAVE TO TREAT KIND WITH KIND.  I have to be rude and cynical as well.  I will not take your rhetoric that defiles everything you don?t understand or believe in, ergo, I will not post anymore on this site, if you keep your mouths shut.

If you continue to blast me, I will answer you.

Dante not only states what he has accomplished, has had it proven by EXPERTS and not web-worms, and even has been called a fraud by a supposedly degreed physics professor from Oregon State University, UNTIL HE PROVED THIS MAN WAS A FRAUD, HIMSELF, in a World Wide public forum, FOUR MONTHS RUNNING, but Dante CHALLENGES ANYONE who wants PROOF.  Proof that he owns what he claims and proof that he can do what he states.

As far as ONEGIFT4POWER is concerned, our 156 page application, to the I. R. S., for their approval, which we received,  is a matter of public record that any U.S. Citizen can check out.

If YOU cannot come up with the cash to back up YOUR MOUTH, then Dante doesn?t have to come up  with the proof, you demand.  Dante doesn?t get this money, ONEGIFT4POWER, the charity gets this money, but Dante gives the secrets.

There are many posts on this thread.  Very few have even emailed me.  I really do not think this site is for us.  It provides nothing constructive, except uses terms like ?OVER-UNITY? which it cannot prove, by simple scientific words, Old Science words, but it is stuck to by the members like glue.  WHY?  If no one can prove it exists, in simply scientific words, like ENERGY USED, (the UNITY),  ENERGY ADDED, (the OVER UNITY), ENERGY OUTPUT, (the results of the UNITY and the OVER UNITY ADDED,)  and the conversion or development process they use, NOT how they accomplish it, BUT WHAT DO THEY USE?

Do they create energy?  Do they develop energy?  Do they find energy laying in or on the ground?  Do they get this UNITY energy from thin air?  WHERE DOES IT COME FROM?

Very simple question to answer, and doesn?t have to give secrets away. 

Dante uses ELECTRICAL ENERGY TWICE.  Uses MECHANICAL ENERGY three times.  The details can be found on our site, in a few weeks. 

Dante?s Power Plant use, at the least, a -5- energy system operations.  His ?MINI-POWER Plant?, which uses his ?greatest discovery of the twentieth century?, ??MECHANIFOIL?, the VERTICAL AIRFOIL, uses ?7- energy systems, as validated by Dr. Olenick, on our site.

NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY, HAS ONE USED ?5- or ?7- ENERGY SYSTEMS in the operations of their POWER PLANT!

In comparison, just for your understanding, an auto uses a ?2- energy system operation, chemical energy, gasoline, converted to mechanical energy, PERIOD!

NOW, HOW DOES YOURS WORK?

ENERGY has to come from someplace, wouldn?t one think so?  OR, do they steal energy, as one device Ted Carnes analyzed in his career, he found that the man stole energy from the Power company and claimed he was getting it from another source?

I make a simple point, and attempts at beating me down are going on, or so it seems but I cannot get beat down, about this simple statement I made.

If one cannot prove, by simple words, how and why he or she claims to have an ?over-unity? device, or better yet, that which I am talking about, a POWER PLANT, (as my so called devices or machines are in reality POWER PLANTS and Power Plants operate totally different, as they are constructed to PERFORM REAL WORK, not just run like a toy,)  that he or she claims to go over-unity, THEN EXPLAIN IT. or if you prefer as this is the message I am getting, you don?t care about the proof, it something you like to talk about, think about and criticize others about, so be it.  What you are saying, is get out of our neighborhood, as we believe our way, and you do no9t, and we do not want to hear about your way.

In religious history, I think a man was hung for this, called Jesus, as HE tried to educate the people of his time, but ?.!

If all you entities reading this are just sitting around playing with, and sitting on  your phrases etc., and not concerned about reality and truthfulness, then I truly apologize. 

I was led to believe this site was set up for COMMUNICATIONS, and to get to the truth, and for some to give and others to take, KNOWLEDGE. 

I can prove, with the same as I am asking you to produce, that ?OVER-EFFICIENCY? exists, and ?OVER-UNITY? is a misnomer.

Navigator got an education that I have been privy to for decades.

?Those who do nothing and know nothing, just sit and criticize those who do, and the advent of the World-Wide-Web, makes it much  easier to hide!?

If anyone wants a real conversation, please email me at ?answers@onegift4power.org

[ring_theory]

Hey! You guys wont believe this!

I have invented a new way to generate energy that is better than all the rest. It actually works using the Heisenberg uncertainty principle! You can prove it to yourself that it works! roll a ball across the floor, now durring its movement, try and pinpoint its location at any given time! YOU CANT! WOW, amazing! This is the first use of the uncertainty principle! Now apply this to Alaskan salmon migration routes! this is the second use of the uncertainty principle!

WHO AMUNG YOU CAN PROVE ME WRONG???

NOBODY HAS YET!

You cant prove me wrong, because you are all dumb
You cant possibly immagine how much responsibility I have on my shoulders.

Maybe you can help me get this amazing technology to the world if you send me some money!

Go ahead and try to prove it wrong! you cant, because I never told you how it works! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH HA HA HA AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH

Weak minded baboons,
I will crush you all with my mighty ego and Capitol Letters!
None can stand in the way if my infalible truths, bold faced words and outragious claims!

Uncertainty yes!  You have proved Heisenberg's uncertainty principle and applied it in a mechanism! you are so smart i bow before your greatness!! Now all we got to do is create a certainty principle and apply that to a mechanism. 8^) 

Dantes response...

Answer to ?ring-theo?.  Reply #66.

Your little analogy about rolling a ball across a floor, can be proven false.  First of all, you used a principle of uncertainty.  These principles are as good as CHAOS being used in physics.  They mean nothing and have nothing to contribute, but to those like yourself, you use them as a matter of fact.

If your trying to mock me, so be it, but your example is dumb, at best.  You provide no input energy numbers, no time of travel, no weight of the ball,  no coefficients of friction, etc., etc., and no output energy numbers.  You provided no conversion or development numbers, where they exist, etc., etc..

If all this was supplied, instead of just a few words to mock people with, you would find that NO ENERGY is gained, or even developed, THAT CAN BE USED TO PERFORM WORK, and that is the ONLY developed energy that has any use.  No one states that energy isn?t developed in many situations.

Every second of every minute, energy is being developed on the face of the Planet, thousands of ways, but if it cannot be harnessed, extracted, stored, then transmitted to perform useful work, what good is it.

It?s as worthless as your scenario.

Well I'll say you or dante are not too good at the forum thing! It was NOT MY POST!!
However this is my contribution!

"Uncertainty yes!  You have proved Heisenberg's uncertainty principle and applied it in a mechanism! you are so smart i bow before your greatness!! Now all we got to do is create a certainty principle and apply that to a mechanism. 8^)  "

I tell you what you better get a grip on reality before you start jumping in here. #1 You have absolutely NO credibility here! I for one don't give two hoots about a word that comes out of your mouths. I have technology that would challenge what you CLAIM to have. #2 I have open sourced it for those here to peer at. Not that they took interests in it. But that's not what is important. #3 IF you have technology that you claim is a gift, than let those that are giving get on with the giving! #4 I was talking to the original poster! so don't butt in with your ego! thinking everyone here even wants to hear from you! crawl back under your bridge NG/dante.

OH please do take it personal! 

[wattsup]

@ring-theory

Come on man. Tone it down will ya.

@Navi-gator

Forget about the patent. Forget about the theory. Forget about saving the world. Forget about making a power plant the size of ten football fields. Forget about all that. Here are some questions.

1) Why are there so many dollars signs on the web site. Money - Money - Money all over. Asked another way. Who's intelligent idea was it to associate something as profound as all the claims Dant? is making with so much emphasis on money.

2) Such a way of selling your idea to the world is like Sunday TV preachers. We'll save you, so send us your money.

3) Come on. How stupid do you think we are here. This type of marketing may work on Mr. Regular but here, there is no place.

4) The other day someone came here to offer 10 million dollars if someone will show OU. We told him to go fly a kite. We won't flinch.

5) Why does a not-for-profit organization own a for profit organization. Nice.

6) What is the mission statement of this NFPO. How can we see a financial statement that confirms it is in fact doing so with the money.

What I think is this.

You and Dant? should go back to your board of directors and figure out a more serious way of "spreading the word". You should also target your marketing to another type of group or forum. Here, as soon as we see Money - Money - Money, you're a goner.

So, if you want to talk about a fact of life, the above is a fact of life. Now you can spend your  days pounding your hammer on an anvil. Then we here would simply say, good luck.

On the other hand, if there is something to show concretely, please feel welcome to discuss it in the language of your choice.

Also, if all that Dant? is stating is a theory, then this is alright. We see theories here everyday. Life is a theory. But don't pass for fact what cannot be corroborated.

[BEP]

@Wattsup

I think the number is probably a 1 900 number.

No one has done this since except me?  ........Ooooo Kay.

OVER-EFFICIENCY / OVER-UNITY - Six of one and half a dozen of the other - unless you are talking about donuts then six and a half.

Jesus was hung? !!!!!!!!!!!!!??

Old science - new science? I was schooled in both and I still must locate and wade through the BS both have in them.

@Dante/NG

If you really have something then I wish you the best of luck and God's speed.

I don't have that much so I must continue frying coils until I find one that works without parting my hair(it won't be long and I'll not worry about that anymore!).

Here I learned quickly if you can't provide proof - there is absolutely no point in making a claim. It doesn't matter why you can't or won't provide proof.

These folks ARE very open minded but the task here must also be based in reality, reproducible, provable and open-source.  In my experience if you go any other way you will likely just.... go away.

[ring_theory]

@ring-theory

Come on man. Tone it down will ya.

Ok Just for you.