The return of the Hungarian: FREE ENERGY from Wave-Fields...

[giantkiller]

"The device which forms the basis of this invention enables - with the help of passive structural units -  the followings: Place two or more elementary radiating sources side by side and in this radiation field favourably superposition these fields to increase the energy of the result wave and convert this surplus energy into other energy form(i.e heat) in order to utilize it. By the export version of this device the elementary radiating sources into which the input signals flow and the elementary radiating sources which receive the waves are placed inside a properly positioned reflecting surface(1). The phase centers of of the elementary radiating sources are placed in the focus points(F1, F2) where they are connected through dipol(2) wires. If the elementary radiating sources are of other types they can be connected - with the proper phase alignment- through coaxial or stripe wires(3). These wires(i.e 2,3) connect the elementary radiating sources and provide the output based upon the incoming/outgoing high frequency signals."

The description of the 2 intersecting frequencies with a 3rd thrown in is the same field configuration as Hutchison. He uses 2 Tesla coils and a transducer.

--giantkiller. If I fell off the train here let me know.

[Doug1]

                             
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"Finally let?s see how can this principle be utilized for the generation of free energy in practice.

To create the initial conditions of the process, we need an energy source to feed two or more radiation sources. The radiators should be arranged so as to have minimal back coupling between them (the wave radiated from the 1st source should cause minimal, or zero energy loss in the 2nd source and vice versa). If the arrangement allows the waves to expand in free space as spherical waves, then after the interference of the waves we will have to find a way to collect them again into a receiver antenna for utilization. "

    I toke this to mean there is one source split into two or more radiators which superimpose to a 1 to 4 gain in the end at the collector. Send back one unit or the equal amount of energy used to start the process to repeat the process and syphon off 3 units for use or 2 if you have to use one unit to cover losses. The split has to be oriented in the same polarization N/S. because waves can pass right by each other going in opposite directions but will only combine when going the same way resulting in a gain only in the same direction and only if the two or more are exactly identical and happening together at the same time. Yes no? if so then waves do not calculate the same way as solids or liquids 1+1 is not 2 in wave propagation or wave addition.

[Bruce_TPU]

                             
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                           Practical considerations



"Finally let?s see how can this principle be utilized for the generation of free energy in practice.

To create the initial conditions of the process, we need an energy source to feed two or more radiation sources. The radiators should be arranged so as to have minimal back coupling between them (the wave radiated from the 1st source should cause minimal, or zero energy loss in the 2nd source and vice versa). If the arrangement allows the waves to expand in free space as spherical waves, then after the interference of the waves we will have to find a way to collect them again into a receiver antenna for utilization. "

    I toke this to mean there is one source split into two or more radiators which superimpose to a 1 to 4 gain in the end at the collector. Send back one unit or the equal amount of energy used to start the process to repeat the process and syphon off 3 units for use or 2 if you have to use one unit to cover losses. The split has to be oriented in the same polarization N/S. because waves can pass right by each other going in opposite directions but will only combine when going the same way resulting in a gain only in the same direction

The boldfaced, underlined statement is not true, if the sources are different!  Ref. JDO300 experiments and cOmsters experiment.

and only if the two or more are exactly identical and happening together at the same time. Yes no? if so then waves do not calculate the same way as solids or liquids 1+1 is not 2 in wave propagation or wave addition.

Identical signals, sent in opposition to one another, do indeed double in amplitude, if each has it's own source. (Separate power supply)


Cheers,

Bruce

[BEP]

Doug1 is correct but only when speaking of transverse EM waves, especially if the wave leading and trailing edges are gradual.

When folks start to believe that a TEM wave is only the result of an LEM wave -and- vice versa and one cannot exist without the other then possibilities will grow.

Like Jason's experiment - you can see some results if the sources of energy are not separated but they will be minor.

If I have the choice of staring-down a Tsunami or standing between two at the meeting point, guess which one I'll pick.

Until these 'Laws' are no longer applied in a blanket fashion we are stuck. Why is it the EE clan can't understand how to make a short piece of wire resonate at a subharmonic when the RE's (I like that acronym  or radio engineers have been doing it for decades?

If you can do it in a water filled wave tank you can do it in a waveguide. Ten's of thousands died a while ago and just recently we started to check for longitudinal wave movement?

Those who do figure these things out are practically beaten with sticks. The ones who have the power to bring new ideas to light won't do it because they'll loose their retirement.

I have only a little hope at this point.

[Doug1]

BruceT
   I was stating what I found interesting in the quote of the paper presented. With out trying it out for myself physically I can only comment on the presented information. Waves passing by each other is something I have seen first hand. Which at times appear to be wave reflection but could just as easily be waves passing each other. The magnitude of two two waves colliding does not yield enough gain to account for double the wave energy. it is not even as much as would be expected if one wave was completely riding over the other. This being observed in nature physically by eye.
    Much of my wire has been lost to trying to make things work using excepted methods perhaps it is time to change tact and stop expecting some type of results to be different while applying methods which have not so far had as high a gain as one might hope for.
   
    One thing I have tried and used is to run two circuits off a single ground wire which use two different voltages that are not even running in the same direction using different power supplies. There was no interference of the two as they crossed paths for short distance. Perhaps there is some consideration to the rest of the physical lay out of what you have stated to be a gain in placing two circuits against each other using two power supplies. Personally I dont see how using two power supplies applies to the statement I quoted from unless you take into account the physical design of what the test results were derived from.
   As wave theory goes I also do not believe using a water tank reveals all that is happening with in the medium. It only shows the effects of the wave in the horizonal plane not the vertical where the two pass by each other or collide with reference to the complete vertical collision. So it may not be conclusive regarding two waves passing each other with or without imparting energy to each other in the sense of gain. Different mediums react to external changes and influences in accordance to their own density. I really do not believe a couple of metal cars or water waves are going to behave like a magnetic field which is more elastic then a Honda Civic.
   Even water will most likely act more like a solid then a magnetic field.

   back to the topic at hand
One of tesla's motor patents which i can not recall the reference # off the top of my head has a number of bi wound coils actually i believe every second coil is tri with the alternate coils being biwound  in the same manor as Bedinni uses his bi-wound and looks a lot like a number of other designs which pop up regularly. perhaps there is some sort of hidden reference to the energy recaptured and it's direction of travel that could help with the tpu.