Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

[TheCell]

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It's not terribly efficient, and its not near overunity. This is just a method of using less current to make hydrogen (less energy in general), which does make less heat, but also makes far less hydrogen:
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@Dyamios
please have a look at the videos ravzz posted on youtube.

Ravi: (oupower.com)
I would be for one thing very impressed if you could generate anywhere close to the outputs mentioned with pulsed 12 Volts and HALF an AMP!!
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(I hope he is honest)

And I would like to add: it would never be possible to gain such a gas - output with 12 Volts and 0,5 Amps straight current!

No its not near overunity, because if water is a fuel , the method of extraction of hydrogen and oxygen is more likely using a catalyst.(So many hints in the internet)

The Stanley Meyers WFC has now been replicated by Dave Lawton and Ravi.
John Aarons is using the brute force method, the bubbles of his cell are completely different from the meyer cells replicaters.

If you look at one video where ravi is using 1 amps , and the wires get hot, so the 1 amps are not the amperage that goes through the cell.
The main function of the electronic is a resonant circuit with capacitor and inductance in series.
So if the circuit is in resonance , there is allmost no resistance , therefore the high current, with a maximum of voltage across each the capacitor and inductance.
This high voltage (only achieved, when the circuit is in resonance) is breaking the chemical bonds. So noone speaks of the resonance of water.

Maybe a better circuit would be like the horizontal deflection unit used in TV's.
This circuit puts out a only one direction voltage peek (3kV) to the capacitor, and there is far less input power needed.Here the voltage of the capacitor depends on the mark space ratio.

@ravi
please post the whole circuit on oupouwer.com (I am missing somethin in D14.pdf)
If there is nothing to add the cells must discharge by themselfes?

[h20power]

Hi Everyone, It is good to see that this technology is going strong. If one want to disprove this type of type of technology you are going too have a hard time in that Daniel Dingel has been doing it for just about 40 years now, and a look at his technology show its simular to Stanley Meyer's. http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=de&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=de%7Cen&u=http://www.freie-energie.net/index/freie_energie/wasserautos/dingel_watercar/dingel_watercar.htm&prev=/language_tools
He has been doing this for a very long time.

The IMF and the World Bank have an agreement with the government of the Philippines not to get into this type of technology. For more informantion on the big pitcure for us all watch: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331&q=zeitgeist&total=662&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3
and read this; http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/wbimf/facts.html .

There is a reason why this technology is not wanted by the IMF and World Bank, it would totally mess up there plans for us all, for right now they are busy parting out Iraq as I type. Imgine what would happen if you dump free energy onto the market? With this technology if one lost there job, the lights would never be cut off and they would still be able to go anywhere they wanted to go (provided they have a car). This technology does just that, it free's mankind of the money manipulators, the banks and IMF related interest. The more the technology spreads the more people would become self sustaining. This technology trully free's the whole of mankind, and they wouldn't be able to have their 'One World Government' if that happens.

Get wise too what is really going on in our world and open your eyes with what I put out, all the information just provided too you.
Only then will you make the conection of this technology and the IMF and World Bank, and why it is being fought at every turn.

[NerzhDishual]

@h20power

IMF, world bank...
liberate mankind of the money manipulators....
You can say that again...

I'm in touch with a French inventor who has mastered the hydrogen on demand  process.
I will say more about this when the next issue of the (French version of) NEXUS magazine is published (beginning september).

Best

[ravzz]

Thecell :


I started off with the same circuit as Dave's in the beginning.....but had to replace a few components with higher wattages as the failed....I think the bigger cells you build you might have to increase the wattages....as per D14 they are 0.25watt but I would advice you to go in for 1 watt for the 100 ohm resistors being used and 0.5 watt in both 220 and 820 ohm resistors.....thats if you are trying to build a 9 tube 9 inch length setup like mine but if its as per Dave's 6 tube 5" length tubes then his D14, Pg 7 circuit should be Ok.

The D14 setup with inductors will be the most efficient of the lot. It on the new updated D14.pdf and not the old one. Inductors are very very important.

I still have no clue why the WFC leads got burnt at 12 V   1 Amp input to the freq generator. Trying to make a few modifications.....would post the results as soon as its done.


Ravi

[wizkycho2]

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If you look at one video where ravi is using 1 amps , and the wires get hot, so the 1 amps are not the amperage that goes through the cell.
The main function of the electronic is a resonant circuit with capacitor and inductance in series.
So if the circuit is in resonance , there is allmost no resistance , therefore the high current, with a maximum of voltage across each the capacitor and inductance.
This high voltage (only achieved, when the circuit is in resonance) is breaking the chemical bonds. So noone speaks of the resonance of water.
@ravi
please post the whole circuit on oupouwer.com (I am missing somethin in D14.pdf)
If there is nothing to add the cells must discharge by themselfes?

@thecell

Just the opposite. When circuit is in resonance (means source is in resonance with load) load has HIGH impendance
and very weak current is flowing from source to the Load although strong currents are flowing within the Load itself.
(look at the rotoverter - it is the same "kind" of resonance)

"...So if the circuit is in resonance , there is allmost no resistance ..." is wrong should be
"...So if the circuit is in resonance , there is high resistance ..."

once again source "feels" that Load (cell) has high resistance, but the resistance within load is low.

Ravi explained in one of his posts that he used SS wire to connect tubes. SS wire has 100 times higher resistance
than Cu and the thickness of those wires as you can see on video are not so thick, so wire burns.

Allthogh Ravzz is meassuring current 0.5A this is RMS currnet or effective current which is good to calculate input power
but peak currents are certanly stronger than that - I would estimate 5A. and there is another reason why high resistance
SS wire burns.

I think that ravzz cell is much more efficient if he would use Cu wires to the tubes.

So everything seems in order... the cell realy seems to be working in OU.

Coils in D14 due to frequency cca 21kHz do not allow cell to discharge.
Cell (and coils) may discharge only when there is a pause on first oscilator cca 100Hz, and that is why there is diode (I would use 4 or 5 in parallel).

reagrds
wiz