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Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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sebosfato

thats why stanley used 12 vic.

And thats why i claim collision takes place inside the water. 

newbie123

Quote from: sebosfato on August 24, 2009, 03:05:58 PM
thats why stanley used 12 vic.

And thats why i claim collision takes place inside the water.

sebosfato,

Lol..  Your claims are wortheless!

All you have is blind theory, just like all the other Stan Meyer fanatics that think they know what Meyer did..
You're Funny!



Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

newbie123

Quote from: Tacmatricx on August 24, 2009, 02:11:51 PM

That is correct... however you have forgotten the core rule:


And don't forget the rule Stan Meyer didn't understand fully...     1 Volt  =  1 Joule / 1 Coulomb
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

Tacmatricx

I actually think Stan was onto something... he totally stole Andrija Puharich's work and made it his own with no reference to Andrija.

However they both made engines run from water alone. Stan had a buggy and Andrija had a RV.

I honestly don't follow how you arrive that H2O2 is involved? If you could turn 2 H2O into H2O2 + H2 there would be no oxygen gas bubbling off as all would be used in the reaction... The only gas released would be H2 and the water would slowly turn to H2O2. A simple test of this is to expose the gas to platinum. H2 gas exposed to platinum does nothing... Mixed H2 and O2 gas explodes in the presence of platinum. This caused a meyer replication rig to explode when it was connected to a PEM fuel cell. H2O2 is also extremely dangerous in high concentrations!

If you have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide you will notice that the manufacturing process is rather complex and no where near as simple as applying a current to water.

In my understanding, the base for both Stan's and Andrija Puharich's technology revolves around harmonic frequencies that cause the H2 atoms in the water molecule to stretch away from the O2 molecule. Repeatedly doing this strips away the H- ions leaving the O+ ions that are attracted to and become H2 and O2 at the electodes. The same principle as shattering a wine glass using sound waves. To break a glass requires either high power waves or low power tuned resonance. i.e. Hard Electrolysis vs. Low voltage frequency.

Tacmatricx

quarktoo

Quote from: Tacmatricx on August 24, 2009, 04:57:26 PM
I actually think Stan was onto something... he totally stole Andrija Puharich's work and made it his own with no reference to Andrija.

However they both made engines run from water alone. Stan had a buggy and Andrija had a RV.

I honestly don't follow how you arrive that H2O2 is involved? If you could turn 2 H2O into H2O2 + H2 there would be no oxygen gas bubbling off as all would be used in the reaction... The only gas released would be H2 and the water would slowly turn to H2O2. A simple test of this is to expose the gas to platinum. H2 gas exposed to platinum does nothing... Mixed H2 and O2 gas explodes in the presence of platinum. This caused a meyer replication rig to explode when it was connected to a PEM fuel cell. H2O2 is also extremely dangerous in high concentrations!

If you have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide you will notice that the manufacturing process is rather complex and no where near as simple as applying a current to water.

In my understanding, the base for both Stan's and Andrija Puharich's technology revolves around harmonic frequencies that cause the H2 atoms in the water molecule to stretch away from the O2 molecule. Repeatedly doing this strips away the H- ions leaving the O+ ions that are attracted to and become H2 and O2 at the electodes. The same principle as shattering a wine glass using sound waves. To break a glass requires either high power waves or low power tuned resonance. i.e. Hard Electrolysis vs. Low voltage frequency.

Tacmatricx

I agree that Meyer stole Puharich's idea and Puharich stole Dad Garret's idea and so on.

They all did the same thing but Meyer probably told more than the others when he patented both the air gas processor and the cell.

Look at the photos of the dune buggy. You see two gate valves. One valve is fed by the steam generator and the other by the ozone generator. That goes to a stack of four resonant cavities which are ultrasonic mixers to combine the two gasses into H2O2 or H2O3.

You don't see how combining H2O and O3 = H2O2 with an extra oxygen? I suspect Meyer eventually got the process up to H2O3 or trioxidane and is what Meyer described as greater than normal energy release once the electrons were extracted during combustion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H2O3

The most significant piece of information is that Meyer did not split H2O into HHO, he built the H2O molecule into H2O2.

"What we are doing is exactly 180 degrees out of phase of Faraday electrolysis" - Stan Meyer.