Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

[TheCell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wlGm0zQmkk
From:  mozon1967
CONCLUSION? DC- NEEDED 6 TIMES THE POWER TO PRODUCE ONLY 4 TIME THE GAS AS THE PWM. BUT WAS THE PWM REALY MORE EFFICIENT? WAS THE EXCESIVE POWER USED BY THE DC CIRCUIT JUST LOST IN HEAT? MAYBE ONE MORE TEST IS NEEDED,DC @ 9AMPS, TO BE FAIR.
ALSO, WHAT KIND OF GAS WAS PRODUCED?
DID THE PWM PRODUCE H1 (MONATOMIC HYDROGEN) AS APOSED TO JUST PLAIN H2,
LIKE SOME PEOPLE SUGGEST? SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER TEST!  (less)
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So one is for sure : increasing the current will decrease the efficiency, you will only get more heat output.

The both methods will be only comparable , if you choose the same input power, not the same voltage.

Regarding the high efficiency-level that has been achieved (thisThread) , I can't imagine that it could be done without the use of any pulsing method.
People like John Aarons are building one cell after another and allways use straight current, with a lots of amps,without progress regarding efficiency.

This methods got to be compared.
Who is able to do it should post the result.
If there is'nt any advantage using the pulsed method compared to the straight current method, then the gain in HHO output would depend only upon the conditioning of the cell
(and thats joe cell related, which I can'nt believe)

[Spewing]

i'm aware of what inductors or chokes do, you apply a voltage across the inductor, the field coil will then create a magnetic field around it, once the "pulse" is removed from the inductor the magnetic field collapses. This leads to the inductor reversing Polarity,almost as if you raked a magnet across it. So this way there's never a neutral time between the pulsed source and wfc, it's always a positive potential when you're using a inductor.

The inductor also acts as a diode, since it reverses polarity when the voltage pulse is removed it blocks, when the blocking is taken place it can be better understood by looking at 2 AA batterys in parellel, Thats why it is important to have 2 chokes on both sides of the water fuel cell, when both inductors L1 and L2 Break Magnetic Fields is when T1 L1 and L2 Combine a parallel Series Form of whop ass to the wfc with the ability to source back not consuming amps.

They're also used as filters, To filter out Small Unwanted Frequencys, This could be why stan used a wiper arm inductor, he may wanted to tune in a particular frequency generated by the pulse generator.

The second that the pulsed dc arrives at the transformer its secondary output is a sine wave with ripples. that's what i was talking about in my other post, a fast frequency riding on top of a slower one, this would mean you have a transformer outputting a sine wave with ripples, where the sine wave output would be created by the primary lawton circuit, and the ripples created by the secondary lawton circuit.

Now you have a sine wave with ripples, and you're are going to add chokes that will Filter those ripples out!

So now you have to get technical and add a Variable Choke to the VIC so that you can now tune in the Desired Ripples Created by the secondary lawton circuit.

it's a very Flusterating task, i'm really confused about how stan figured all this out all by himself.

i do understand your concern TheCell, we all have them, right now we really need to get our conditioned tubes together and put our heads together. i'm very sorry for misleading people about the battery charger, i simply didn't know that you had to limit the speed at which you condition the tubes, but there is one guy over at the energetic forum who has an available circuit that claims to condition them faster. ? hrmmm

[RunningBare]

I've just been thinking about the tube conditioning, correct me if I'm wrong, but what about immersing the tubes in sulphuric acid, hang them to dry then repeat the process a few times, this would build up an oxide layer on stainless steel tubes?

[Spewing]

I've just been thinking about the tube conditioning, correct me if I'm wrong, but what about immersing the tubes in sulphuric acid, hang them to dry then repeat the process a few times, this would build up an oxide layer on stainless steel tubes?

i really don't know, i noticed that water drying itself on the stainless causes a hard water spot, and it turns white, i've also learned that only the negative tube gets the coating not the positive one.

we really need to get to the bottom of this type of pasivating and learn how to speed it up. To condition like this is very hard.

[RunningBare]

Don't you mean the positive tube?
The negative only gives hydrogen, it's the positive that produces oxygen hence the oxide layer would appear on the positive.

i really don't know, i noticed that water drying itself on the stainless causes a hard water spot, and it turns white, i've also learned that only the negative tube gets the coating not the positive one.

we really need to get to the bottom of this type of pasivating and learn how to speed it up. To condition like this is very hard.