Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Guys another [lawton-Ravi] replication was sent to me
Plus a guy on Hydroxy just posted he has one too.

Quote on the attached

"Paul estimates that he is getting the same output as Dave.  He intends to improve substantially on that, but he has to fix a leak in the base of the cell before he continues development.  His web site is http://greenwand.net"

Hydroxy post

"I am using a meyer cell with a Dave Lawton circuit. I increased my gas milage in my ford escort to 45 MPG from 28 MPG. The Lawton circuit fryed my alternator. My solution was a $20 dollar boat battery charger that plugs into a car cigarette lighter. I use that to power my Lawton circuit now.



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[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Guys, as you may know Dave has reported Cold current electricity from the cell, Patrick just sent me this, im not sure if he has uploaded the new 'cold current' circuit to the cell, but rest assured the plans wil be in there

"I'm afraid that papers of that nature just leave me cold (no pun intended) as I gain nothing from them.  I don't think in mathematical structures.

The subject of radiant, or "cold" energy is not well defined at this time.  Our familiar conventional electricity appears to be a transverse oscillation while the "cold" component appears to be a longitudinal oscillation.  Consequently, none of our instruments react to cold electricity and while it can power lights, motors, heaters, etc., the only way to actually measure it appears to be to charge a lead-acid battery using it and then measure the power stored in the battery by discharging it.  John Bedini remarks that after forty years of searching, that is the only mechanism which he has found.

Electromagnetic pulsing appears to be the main way of accessing this energy.  Bob Boyce's electrolyzer gets 10 x Faraday's supposed maximum, through magnetic pulsing of a hundred stainless steel plates in a row.  This is effectively pulsing a hundred capacitors in series as the electrolyte is essentially a dielectric.  Bob gets a major power gain by pulsing windings on a toroid, which is definitely a significant shape for cold electricity.  The power gain can be 10,000 amps of hot electricity, and as that is effectively the "losses" where cold electricity is concerned, the real "cold" power is so much greater that it can trigger a ground feeder leading to a lightning strike.  Bob found that out the hard way and was very lucky to survive being hit by that lightning strike.

The toroid is at the heart of many different COP>1 devices and its effect can be simulated by generating a rotating magnetic field without a toroid (devices like the Adams Motor for example).  That of course, is not the whole picture, as Thomas Henry Moray achieved massive power input without anything like that, so how do you explain input from an aerial as that appears fairly passive?

So, the bottom line is, that while I know that cold electricity can be tapped with rotating magnetic fields, strong dipoles (including sharp DC pulses and permanent magnets) and passive devices like aerials, Coler devices and the Joe Cell, it is clear that I really don't understand anything significant about it.
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[tao]

Here are some more pics of Paul's setup.

He had this setup running many months ago, but there was a blowback and the cell got ruptured (as Ash mentioned)...

[Gheller J]

pese>>>>>


There r additions mate   >>>like detailed conditioning process posted by Ravi    >>>its an udate to d link you posted >>>check 



Gh. J.

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Just in from a friend

('bigfatpothead' on youtube) running his car on Dave's setup and his mileage gain was around 17 miles/gallon which works out to 62% increase in mileage!! (by far better than any available off the shelf).....the video is (  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fFp3CJZMTw ).....this system was the same size as Dave's , wouldn't be surprised if the mileage gain is over 120% as my unit is much bigger

Calculation: (Both setups have same tube diameters)

Dave's WFC: 6 tube of 5 inch length

Just considering the gas generating heights........ 6 tubes x 5 inches  = 30 inches in length/height

Ravi's WFC: 9 tubes of 9 inch length

Just considering the gas generating heights........ 9 tubes x 9 inches  = 81 inches in length/height


Thats an increased reactive surface area of over 150% than Dave's.....so theoretically from above increase in mileage it should be 62% x 2.5 = 155% gain for the same car that he uses....if the 9 inch 9 tube setup is connected then the gain is 42.5 miles/gallon (17 x 2.5) and the overall mileage should be
@70.5 miles/gallon (28 + 42.5)....thats huge!!