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Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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PULSED)ReverseH/OfuelcelI

Hi everyone,

You are all doing well,

But let?s look at Stan?s main drawing at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Water_fuel_cell_circuit.png,  here we have a power supply, a transformer (witch is not essential but dose help, so lets forget about that for now), a frequency generator, a diode, two chokes bifilar wound*, and a capacitor.

Now we know that 2a input 5v input that?s 10 watt?s, is all we need.

The frequency generator needs to produce pulsed DC and gated pulsed DC wave form, the gates are there so that the voltage fields don?t arch.

The pulses are to find resonance of the inductor and capacitor.

Ok.

The transformer is an unnecessary luxury; we will not go into that now.

Now we come to the [diode] this is here to keep the Water capacitor (Stainless steel plates/tubes) charged, it dose not let the high voltage wash out of the capacitor, It lets the voltage build up charge slowly.

Done,

Now we come to the inductor (choke), this is a very important part of this circuit. When a pulse hits the inductor, the inductor generates an electromagnetic field. This then waits for the second pulse and then lets out the first pulse; witch goes to the water capacitor and gets charged in there and gets times on it self each time.

Then it washes back out to the inductor, but not past because the High voltage diode dose not let it.
Then the momentum starts building with each pulse, the voltage is resonating up, down, up, down.

This is how the voltage gets to such high levels with 5v and 2a. and this is the role of the inductor.

Ok.

Now let?s look at the water capacitor, this is made up of a bunch of stainless steel plates/tubes, forming a capacitor, this is where the high voltage gets put, so that the tremendous voltage fields are made in the water between the plates in the capacitor.

That is how the LC resonance in the water fuel cell builds up high voltage fields.

The key is LC resonance,

LC resonance is a ?choke? (copper wire around a ferrite core) witch is L and a ?capacitor? (the stainless steel plates/tubes) witch is C.

When you put a pulse through an LC circuit you will not get much of a reaction, but if you slowly tune, or do some hard math, you can find the resonant frequency.

The right frequency will resonate with the capacitor and the inductor, but you need to find resonance.

Good,

Now let?s look at what is actually happening to the water molecule.

The conventional electrolysis method uses amperage. Lots of it, and the energy used is not recovered after the Hydrogen and the oxygen recombine.

Now that we are using high voltage fields and very little amperage we don?t use much wattage but lots of hydrogen.

Let?s take the normal water molecule; it has two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom.

Now the problem with breaking apart the water molecule is the covalent bond of the water molecule, this is the electrons that hold it together. But now that we are using high voltage fields we can ?strip? of the electrons, leaving the hydrogen and oxygen free to rise to the top as a gas mixture.

We have now broken the water molecule with high voltage fields by affecting the electrons.

Imagine the water molecule is held together by a lock witch is the electron. The conventional electrolysis process is like trying to smash apart the lock; it takes so much energy to do that.

But what Stan did was unlock the covalent bond of the water molecule using voltage, ?plucking? or ?extracting? the electrons. This uses much less electricity, and is more efficient.

It breaks the laws of thermodynamics you say?

Well, in the process of stripping the electrons the water molecule looses its electrons, the hydrogen and oxygen then goes into the combustion chamber in the piston of the engine. It needs to use its other electrons to reform that covalent bond,

Just try and re use that water coming out of the exhaust, you cant.

Before that water can be reused, is needs to go up into the atmosphere and join the clouds, get re-energized by the sun and fall back to earth, it acts like a solar panel, to get that covalent bonding electron.

As soon as you start using electricity to make photons to ?re energize? the ?stripped? water molecules is as soon as you loose energy.

Thank you all, to find out more go to http://www.waterfuelcell.org/ and join the forum!

Have a nice day.

Gheller J



D14 Circuit PCB Layout



Gary aka Chemelec from the OUPower forums has kindly done up the PCB layout for Dave's ciruit! Hopefully this will be useful to everyone.

he has also added additional paralled caps to the two 100uf caps, he says
these should be .1uF disc or ceramic types to give better stability at higher frequencies.

Gheller J

PULSED)ReverseH/OfuelcelI>>>>>

Dats a terrific rundown! Where have u been all along mate??

What do you think of pancake bifilar? cud u use them here? as these don use cores atall wud they give d same effect as bifilars wound on long ferrite rod core? wot difference is there in outputs? I kinda dont understand how pancakes wud work.


Gh. J.

chortly

How difficult is it to find the settings to get resonance? Does anyone have ballpark suggestions for settings to begin with?
Seems like it'd be a good idea to compile everyone's rigs/results into a big spreadsheet... you know, develop a list of operating parameters?

djctek

Quote from: djctek on September 18, 2007, 11:47:25 PM
Due to the numerous requests I have had for it -

I just listed 10 more of the PWM "black box" on eBay as a preorder sale - Item number: 120163570832  - the pcb's are off to manufacturing and have a delivery eta of 9/24 unless they get them done quicker and the box will start shipping on 9/25/07

Thanks guys


I was just notified the circuit boards are done and will be here on Friday 9/23 - the "BLACK BOX" will start shipping on Saturday 9/23. I upgraded the board design to include screw terminal blocks on all inputs, outputs, Pots, gate switch. This added a few bucks to the cost of reproducing it but will save tons of time on final assembly. I also changed the resistors to 1/2 watt instead of 1/4 watt  - Ravi posted this info a while back as the changes he made to the circuit for the bigger tube setup. The outward appearance of the unit will remain unchanged at this time. Thanks

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