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Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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ravzz

Alright People some have been very skeptical about the volumes I mentioned....so this video is for especially for them!!



Sorry about the bad quality....the natural light wasnt there like in the videos 7 & 8......so you need to adjust with this till I make a fresh one with better lighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMSUe76PZLQ

Well Hydro looks like you were right the WFC seems to be producing more!!
1.31min into the video the gas collection was started and stopped at 1.51min of the video......20 secs to be exact.

The gas collected was over 150CC could be 160 / 165CC....
As some might say that there could be Steam / Vapour / Mist......lets just take the output as 150CC in 20 Secs.

This comes to 7.5CC of HHO/Sec at 0.48A - 0.50A.

Last I checked with the old leads was 7.0 CC HHO without any thing removed from the generation.




Stefan I hope this is what you had asked for.



Ravi

hartiberlin

Quote from: ravzz on August 27, 2007, 03:06:43 AM


#1. Yes the SS wires act as resistors. The specificresistance of 316L is around 75 Micro-Ohm-cm and that of copper is 1.72 Micro-Ohm-cm. The leads heat up when higher amps are drawn by the freq gen....you can see this in the videos  I posted. I've replaced the leads upto the bottom of the WFC with 4 Sqmm double insulated copper wire and the heat generation did come down. I need to check if theres any increase / decrease in generation.

#2. I have spot welded the 316L wires to the tubes. Used silicone to keep them in place and avoid shorting. The tubes are plastic for insulation. Yes you can use copper wire sealed in silicone sealant. Cover the exposed copper leads in the water with silicone sealant as well.


Ravi and all,
remember, if you have 2 different metals fixed together and run a big current through
it, one side will heat up, cause you have the Seebeck effect, it is like a thermo element...

So maybe it is just better to use the same SS material also for the connections
and use low current and high voltage and low conduction water
to break the H20 bonds apart...

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Quote from: ravzz on August 27, 2007, 12:54:48 PM
Alright People some have been very skeptical about the volumes I mentioned....so this video is for especially for them!!



Sorry about the bad quality....the natural light wasnt there like in the videos 7 & 8......so you need to adjust with this till I make a fresh one with better lighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMSUe76PZLQ

Well Hydro looks like you were right the WFC seems to be producing more!!
1.31min into the video the gas collection was started and stopped at 1.51min of the video......20 secs to be exact.

The gas collected was over 150CC could be 160 / 165CC....
As some might say that there could be Steam / Vapour / Mist......lets just take the output as 150CC in 20 Secs.

This comes to 7.5CC of HHO/Sec at 0.48A - 0.50A.

Last I checked with the old leads was 7.0 CC HHO without any thing removed from the generation.




Stefan I hope this is what you had asked for.



Ravi

Hi Ravi,
well done.
We now really see, how much gas you are producing.
Well done with this setup.

But the question still is, what kind of pulses
do you use at the pipes ?
Can you loan a scope from someone and show the pulses on a scope ?

Where did you connect exactly your Ampmeter ?
As it is an ampmeter for high current DC amps probably,
it would not work good
for low current Khz frequency pulses...
So the reading could be wrong.

Can you try to use an analog DC ampmeter and also
show the used voltage on an analog voltmeter ?

With digital meters you can get wrong readings very easily.
Best would be to use a 12 Volts battery and hook onto it
the DC ampmeter, then next after this 2 or 3 lowpass LC filters
with big chokes and for instance 10.000 uF capacitors
and then going into the input to your frequency driver.

This way you would really measure a DC only input into the
LC lowpassfilters and then into the frequency driver,
so you are sure you have the right input power without
pulses destroying your DC amps measurements.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

keithturtle

My approach to amps measurement in this case would be at the mains source, by  a meter oblivious to phase shift.

Better still, use a fully charged rechargable battery of known storage characteristics.   Power yer circuit for a while, quantify gas production, note time of operation, shut it all down and recharge the battery with a mAh counting charger.

See exactly how much power went into the process via battery, divide into gas production for gas per watt.

This would go a long was towards validation.   Many wattmeters cain't deal with pulses and phase shifts.   Measure the source if possible.

Turtle
Soli Deo Gloria

RunningBare

Perhaps I missed it somewhere, is the voltage measured?

I can get huge reactions from a few milliamps so long as I have very very high voltage, eg it is the input wattage that is needed, voltage or current alone are meaningless, if voltage and current are quoted we can then at least calculate the wattage which is the most important calculation when measuring input to output ratios.


Quote from: ravzz on August 27, 2007, 12:54:48 PM
Alright People some have been very skeptical about the volumes I mentioned....so this video is for especially for them!!



Sorry about the bad quality....the natural light wasnt there like in the videos 7 & 8......so you need to adjust with this till I make a fresh one with better lighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMSUe76PZLQ

Well Hydro looks like you were right the WFC seems to be producing more!!
1.31min into the video the gas collection was started and stopped at 1.51min of the video......20 secs to be exact.

The gas collected was over 150CC could be 160 / 165CC....
As some might say that there could be Steam / Vapour / Mist......lets just take the output as 150CC in 20 Secs.

This comes to 7.5CC of HHO/Sec at 0.48A - 0.50A.

Last I checked with the old leads was 7.0 CC HHO without any thing removed from the generation.




Stefan I hope this is what you had asked for.



Ravi