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Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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Freenrg4me

Quote from: saintpoida on October 09, 2007, 01:23:32 AM
yeah ok so my inducotrs might be too small

and about the transformer is that the toroid with 200 24awg winds and 600 36awg winds?

or something else?

and if it is then should that be wired in before the blocking diode as it is in the patent?

The problem with using a mosfet in a resonant circuit is that the mosfet will shut down or be destroyed once the circuit resonates which is instantly. Usually, the mosfet will not even turn on.

A simple way to prove what I just told you is to go down to radio shack and buy a 2n3055 NPN transistor (the big one in the metal can) and watch the circuit start to work again. Silicone and mosfet are very different switch.

The next problem you are going to encounter is impedance between any inductive device such as a isolation transformer and the cell.

I calculate around 17ohms with my single cell and local tap water. That is a massive amount of impedance and so you will not transfer the full energy from the circuit to the cell. That must be calculated and matched or your production will decrease as your resonance increases.

So as you can see, you will have to learn how to calculate impedance, design an impedance  matching circuit and then you will need some fast rectifier diodes to keep what you created in the cell.

Google - The sum of all knowledge.

And then...  if you want to create the Meyer process, you will need to toss most of it in the trash because the Dave circuit does not seem to resemble the Meyer process in any way. In fact, the Dave thing really can't go, and never has gone OU from what I can see.

The only OU water crack I have seen with my eyes is Dr. Stiffler's electron recycle circuit. I replicated it and it does work as advertised.

Stifflers process is interesting and inventive but I think the Meyer process is probably better. It is the difference between (Meyer) making the electrons stay at work until the job is done with a Delrin insulation barrier (and maybe a barium ferrite core as Stiffler suggests may be the case with one of his experiments) and ------  (Stiffler) driving them back to work for overtime shift once they to sneak past the cathode and out the back door to go home. It takes energy to recycle the electrons but you do get something for it.

The Stiffler process did not make huge plumes of white gas bubbles but it did produce gas at 1.6 OU. Anyone can make bubbles with enough power, but you have to make them for free or it is pointless. You burn more gasoline to make more H and lose gasoline in the end.

Lastly, Hydrogen resonates at 42.580MHZ Dr. Stiffler has shown that you can make the water resonate at that frequency using barium ferrite core driven blue LED. Cold electricity 90 degree  winding on the core? Doc Stiffler did not specify, just said barium ferrite.

So if you are having fun with the Dave thing, the isolation transformer should filter out that choke resonance and protect your circuit from high voltage at the same time. I think decoupling is the key to making your switch work properly.

I use 1H FE core inductors per tube. I get as many as 15 resonate traces on my scope all overlapping each other. H production is lowest at that point but so is power drain. I need to work on the fast diode problem at the cell next. Rectifier diodes don't switch fast. 42k frequency works best for me. It is a harmonic of H and I use a NTE4046B phase lock loop for the pulse generator. 555 time is unstable, limited to 20K and more work to set up than the PLL.

I am only doing this stuff to prove that the Dave circuit is not the Meyer process in any way other than he figured out how create a mark space. A 4017B divide by ten works much better to enable a second PLL.

Also I built the toroid core transformer to the patent spec and it did not work well at all. I didn't expect it to. In the notes stan talked about "tuning to the frequency of water" and a wiper arm on the tunable choke. That is not a VIC on a toroid setup. Is the patent is full of disinformation? I think so but I also think I have a clue as to how it really worked thanks to Dr. Stiffler.

Freenrg4me

I should also point out that the Meyer process evolved considerably and what was patented and what was the final product seem to differ greatly. It would be worth understanding the evolution of the product. If you feed hydroxy into your carb in a meaningful quantity, the last thing you will hear will be boom.

From what I have seen of the Meyer process, there was no aspect of it that was not previously patented, sometimes several times.

I suppose the oil company shills at the patent office would be more than happy to see inventors sue each other and in the end bring nothing to market.

It is also worth noting that every patent has to go through a national security review to determine if it has military value in the US and most other countries. If it does, what is patented is not going to be a lot of help since it will be dumbed down considerably to prevent you from replication.

The final Meyer process was a pulse compression network that used a plasma discharge to crack and explode the water in an instant. Cavitation at the end of the injector produced electron clusters and that is where it really went from thermal to thermonuclear.

It looks like the water was prepped in the way that Dr. Puharich specified in his patent. When you see the eight lines of bubbles coming out the top of your cell in perfect geometry, that is being produced by the H and means the dihedral bond angle has been modified and it is ready of be exploded with a plasma burst supplied from the magnetically compressed pulse created by the VIC.

The resonant chamber of the injector appears to be BS to me. It is really just the chamber of the gun so to speak. The plasma ignites at the end where the two sides come closest together, (engine side) and then the water is blasted through the plasma. The two electrodes that produce the static charge just hold the water droplet in place.

You can probably get some nology plug wires, a nology coil and they also sell a pulse compressor for your ignition coil. Inject some of that prepped water into the engine and have something that works but I have not done it so don't take my word for it.

There is a reason that the plasma spark plug invention was bought out. It doubled your mileage for the cost of new spark plugs. Resistive wires destroy the amperage to the plug. You usually go from a 100A spark to a .02A spark with resistive wires. They use resistive wires to prevent RF generation.. :-) and make sure that nothing you do with fuel cracking will increase your mileage in any significant way.

People claim to have run engines with a plasma plug and steel wires to boost the amperage of the spark and create plasma.

pleez2help

Ok, so you have a working circuit, a resonant one, pipes that sing without restriction, poles of the magnet in harmony,where is the ....video...or .....photo.... or schematic... or...... web site with kits/instructions/mentoring/links???
If I had your obvious expertise and an empathy for what we are trying to achieve, surely I would let everyone know how??
Unless, of course, there is a whiff of ill-wind in what you say that emenates not from the feed hole?
I don't mean to be rude, only I have played with... the joe cell, leedskalnin coils and am a welder with plasma cutting experience.
I have been shocked by all three and each has touched my soul.
Something needs to be done now and I am in a unique position that would enable production of multiple units that, I beleive, would take "the authorities " a reasonable amount of time to find me.
THEREFORE:
IF you have a working resonant curcuit that fullfills the OU requirement, that will provide a stable environment in harmony with the future of this planet, please let us know now so we all can do what we can with what we have!!

pleez2help

I am new to this forum thingy so I thought I'd try doing what others had done and put a quote at the bottom of my post but it didn't go as planned.
SO:
There is but one choice, grow, in harmony, or die!!!!!