Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

[fever16]

today i started my experiment with different and wearied hand made inductors.(only bi-filar no setup coil)
and came to conclusion that conditioning is the only answer to get more gas.i just used 2 plates glued by quick fix and 2 nylon made washers.i used dave's 555 and some coils.
but when i concentrated more on conditioning it worked.at the end of day i was getting more gas at 0.5 amp consumption.don't know why inductor never worked.may be after full conditioning i shld go for VIC circuit(step up transformer and bi-filar coils).

one thing is bothering me..
ravi told us to do the conditioning at different amp for different times.but my setup is not drawing that amp at all.its always staying at 0.5.how can i increase the current consumption?.by adding more electrodes or by tuning the 555 circuit?
and guys pls help me to find the proper range of  frequency.at what capacitor ranges your getting good gas out put.

[insane4evr]

Hi fever16,

I am no expert and this is just my opinion.

Maximum current draw for your setup can be measured if you bypass the PWM and apply fused 12VDC across your WFC. This could help you determine if your PWM is working or not.

Current draw depends upon the number of plates, their size, and the distance between them. What are they. 

Did the conditioning water turn brown? Are you seeing a change in the surface of one of the plate?

[fever16]

i did some 15-20 trails for conditioning,at first all of the water turned brown and cell keep building some sort of slag.but when i reached my 18 and 19th trial i can observe a thick layer of slag only at the top.rest of the water is quite clear.i started the conditioning at at 0.4AMP and final one ended up at 0.6AMP.but during this gas production surely gone up.
may be as you said,more plates will draw more current.i shld try that.

*has any one made some good working PCB layout for this 555 circuit?

[alan]

Did you use an electrolyte?

[sanmankl]

@All,

This may be OT but I did a replication and my video is on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV6EZA2yVGQ

I can't afford ss tubes so I have to make do.

I'm using 5 round sink strainer plates (stainless steel) bought at the local hardware shop, 3" in diameter. DC power via a 555 PWM at 53% duty cycle, 10.7KHz. The funny thing is that if I use the plates the other way round i.e. "a concave" or shallow "U", there's not much gas but when I invert it, gas production is pretty good considering it's only a single frequency at 10.7KHz. Tried other freq., 20KHz, 42Khz; not as good as 10KHz.

This is plain tap water, no additives.

I conditioned the plates by running it in the same frequency with water for about 10 minutes, stop, start again 10 mins 5~6 times. 1st few times, the water turns brownish.

Comments/suggestions welcome.

cp