Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

[4Tesla]

How many times is this going to be scrapped up off of the basement floor?

I don't want to be a pessimist or anything, but really, why is there any rhyme or reason to believe that pulsed (essentially AC) electricity will somehow fracture water molecules any better than regular DC. There is no electrical resonant frequency of water to be found. It physically does not exist.

H2O doesn't even vibrate in any electrical fashion, let alone has the capacity to hold resonant energy. The simple reaction occurring during electrolysis is merely extra electrons being transfered to form gaseous Hydrogen and Oxygen (diagrammed below):
H20 + e- -> H2 + O2

The reason there is less energy use is because of the minute gap between the electrodes. The smaller the gap, the less distance the electrons and ions have to move to form new molecules.

The reason the water heats up is because when the water molecules fall apart when extra electrons are supplied, the various atoms must migrate through the water itself to the various electrodes, where it finally forms the gaseous form. As these particles move, they bump into other molecules and atoms, and add entropy (in the form of heat) to the system. This is INEVITABLE and ALWAYS occurs no matter what kind of frequency is used. The less gap, the less chance for the particles to bump into each other, therefore creating less heat, but heat will ALWAYS be produced.

Therefore electrolysis can NEVER under ANY type of circumstance be more than 99% efficient.

Stanley Meyers had a flawed understanding of the process of electrolysis, and his theory was debunked by the patent office.

Electrolysis does not magically break apart water molecules wherever they stand. The particles must move extensively, and whilst doing so they always add entropy to the system.



I'm begging everyone who reads this: PLEASE learn the rudimentary science before running off go blindly believe somebody. Most, if not all, of the theories here are flawed in some basic way (it goes without saying that the laws of thermodynamics are excluded from this, as every theory violates this).


Enough of Stanley Meyers. He was a fraud. His theory was flawed. He was weighed, measured, and found guilty. What does it take to get people to realize that water is NOT an energy source. At most its an inefficient energy carrier.

Hydrogen is only the future of MOVING energy, NOT making it. Please people, understand this!

I believe the resonant frequency changes as the amount of mass changes.. so the resonant frequency would be slightly different for 1 litter of water vs 2 liters of water.  HHO is real and easy to make.. the problem is that it doesn't have a powerful enough explosion to run a 4 cycle engine.  I believe that a 2 cycle engine might work or this engine http://www.haw-system.jp/English/indexE.html would work.

If you don't believe in resonant frequencies.. check out some of Tesla's work!

Jason

[slider1]

I believe each atomic structure has a resonant frequency, a molecule also would have a resonant frequency. I don't know how you can say that HHO does not have enough energy to power a 4 cycle engine. HHO has almost 3 times the amount of energy per weight of Octane......
As far as Dyamios comments, they are not even worth to argue!

[onormanns]

hello fellows. i am new to the block from norway, old sivilengineer i electronics and physics before i jumped the boat over to daoism and acupuncture and tcm stuff, also indepth understandg in ozone generation and treatment. anyhow i am now into overveiw and study periode here now, have followed t.beardens work over the last decade.
I had an idea as i envisioned my unit in my head one night: to make this unit more compact and still remain the same characteristics, how would it work to make instead of two concentric pipes... then instead make it with three concentric pipes, anode or chatode in the middle one. i have a theory but depending how i puls it alternating or not.  how do you think that would actually behave teoretically. any brave comments 

[HeairBear]

Something like this?

[4Tesla]

I believe each atomic structure has a resonant frequency, a molecule also would have a resonant frequency. I don't know how you can say that HHO does not have enough energy to power a 4 cycle engine. HHO has almost 3 times the amount of energy per weight of Octane......
As far as Dyamios comments, they are not even worth to argue!

I only say it can't power a 4 cycle as I haven't seen anyone able to get one to run on pure HHO.. if you have info on a 4 cycle engine running on pure HHO.. please provide a link.. thanks!

Edit:  HHO produces more heat.. that is a form of energy.. I'm talking about exploding HHO to push the piston through the full cycle.

Jason