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Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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tao

Quote from: RunningBare on September 17, 2007, 11:59:03 AM
I'll tell you what, I'll be more convinced if someone here can come up with the term amp consuming device in mainstream electronics and electrical engineering and it's use, as an electronics engineer myself I've never heard the term.


Stanley reasoned that since his whole method is based on using ONLY VOLTAGE POTENTIAL, it would stand to reason to label one of his elements in his circuit an AMP CONSUMING DEVICE. Since he is seeing amps and voltage are separate things, and they MOST CERTAINLY can be separated, this explains the labeling.

Of course, the AMP CONSUMING DEVICE refers to any loads (preferably resistive loads) which use power in a normal fashion.

RunningBare

In that case you could use the voltage potential from a line output transformer which can be in the 10s of KV range but with currents measured in microamps, around 40 microamps in the case of mine, yes I tried it, the output from the tubes was barely visible.

Quote from: tao on September 17, 2007, 12:07:27 PM

Stanley reasoned that since his whole method is based on using ONLY VOLTAGE POTENTIAL, it would stand to reason to label one of his elements in his circuit an AMP CONSUMING DEVICE. Since he is seeing amps and voltage are separate things, and they MOST CERTAINLY can be separated, this explains the labeling.

Of course, the AMP CONSUMING DEVICE refers to any loads (preferably resistive loads) which use power in a normal fashion.

TheNOP

Quote from: RunningBare on September 17, 2007, 12:19:46 PM
In that case you could use the voltage potential from a line output transformer which can be in the 10s of KV range but with currents measured in microamps, around 40 microamps in the case of mine, yes I tried it, the output from the tubes was barely visible.
was it DC ?
if not, the plates were constantly changing polarity and  only shaking the molecules

the task is not "breaking the dielectric barrier of water".
it is to apply a force to dissociate its molecules.

imo. at 10KV the distance between plates would need to be revised.

about the schematic, i suggest to replace the lamp by a battery.  ;)

RunningBare

The output from a modern line output transformer is DC due to the fact it has a built in diode/capacitor voltage multiplier.


Quote from: TheNOP on September 17, 2007, 06:18:41 PM
was it DC ?
if not, the plates were constantly changing polarity and  only shaking the molecules

the task is not "breaking the dielectric barrier of water".
it is to apply a force to dissociate its molecules.

imo. at 10KV the distance between plates would need to be revised.

about the schematic, i suggest to replace the lamp by a battery.  ;)

TheNOP

 @ RunningBare

For me, "line output transformer"could mean, a conventional step up transformer, or a flyback transformer.
Sorry if i make a mistake here.
Blame it on the language barrier.  :D



BTW
If you try the sublimation of water way, i suggest that you reduce the size of your electrodes and use smaller quantity of water at a time.

At too high voltage, in Mayer's setup, the voltage will only arc from a specific point between two electrodes and will not build much differencial charges on the tubes.