Formular to calculate energy per liter of HHO gas

[Tacmatricx]

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/tech_validation/pdfs/fcm03r0.pdf

ICE's are one of the least efficient methods for using Hydrogen imho... It would make much more sense to use a Hydrogen fuel cell, batteries and an electric motor.

If platinum was cheaper or an alternate was found... we'd all be driving electric cars.

[magnetrecharge]

Magna your the guy thats been missing here someone to verify the results LanMasterd Feynman Z monkey and others are simplifying the PWM to a computer device  you should look in  alot of hard work already done by very skilled and determined men   Chet

I can't verify without info or unit to test. That said I have some new numbers. I am not a numbers guy but
I have done many controlled tests and I am very good at it. Here is the latest updated numbers.

Straight juice no pulse with a 6 cell Myer style. 316 stainless tubes. 
Current draw 4.3 amps. Supply over current limit so voltage is low. Maybe .03.

Produces 60 CC of Gas Steady. 

Pulsed circut with no choke in line.
Volatge is 30 across cell at 2.85 amps.

              40 CC of gas steady.       40 volts PP on scope.

Pulsed circut with choke. 2.5 amps 30 volts across cell.

               68  CC of gas.                75 volts PP on scope

Note that the increase in gas corresponds with the scope reading.
This suggest that Back EMF is indeed playing a role here.
If anything I am very intrigued by what I see.

Because I can monitor gas flow real time it's easy to experiment and I will be doing just that
with different circuits and chokes.

           

[magnetrecharge]

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/tech_validation/pdfs/fcm03r0.pdf

ICE's are one of the least efficient methods for using Hydrogen imho... It would make much more sense to use a Hydrogen fuel cell, batteries and an electric motor.

If platinum was cheaper or an alternate was found... we'd all be driving electric cars.

Here is the problem in a nut shell and don't count HHO  out yet,
People want and need a cheap way to boost millage. My agenda is simple and
maybe practical. Most people can't afford electric cars and want or need the power of an ICE.
Modifying a car to run on gas and electric is expensive and most people don't have the skills
to make one them selves.

It may be possible with a 70% effeicent cell to produce enough HHO to get a 80% increase in fuel economy
using battery's charged up at home. I have plenty of room in the back of my car for battery's.
The concept is cost and return based to me not efficiency  as it would be with most consumers.
If one could get a cell to produce 50 LPM  for even  40 minutes on the battery's that would get me to work and back
and could provide a huge boost in millage. The idea is to charge the battery bank at home on the grid and would come at a cost of about 1 dollar for say, 4 battery's.  50 LPM or 3000 LPH is 80% sufficient to for cruising  speeds and would require little or no fuel from the engine discounting acceleration's hills and wind. This is based on simple dyne that I do all the time. In other words you are using 80% HHO and 20% fuel. The typical Road load horse power is about 10 to 15 at 60 MPH depending on the weight of the vehicle.

I don't  and can't subscribe to claims of HHO boosters getting 60MPG. It does not add up. Those cells are using brute force at 50 to 60 amps. That's a cost of 1 horse power from the cars alternator. So one can see that at cruising speeds that's a 10% millage penalty. Consider that with the fact that you are producing less then 1/2 horse power worth of HHO. People are overlooking one simple fact.
It's dirt cheap to charge battery's.  The standard electric car cost's about 2 cents per mile to charge. Yep, that's right. 100 miles
would cost you 2 bucks at today's electrical rates. I think my idea warrants  investigation. Especially when you consider you could use solar or wind power to charge your battery's. I believe that we overlook very possible things that would help us all out a great deal while trying to do the impossible. It could very well be that Stan Meyer made a very efficient cell perhaps upwards of 90%. I don't believe he had over unity  because I just don't think that's possible but that doesn't mean I won't keep an open mind. I really respect you guy's but I do think a lot of you take large steps without taking baby ones first. In other words how about we all focus our efforts on unity and then we can look more into over unity? The nay sayers are your friends to but if they see that we can accomplish  what I said above that will get some attention to the cause. If Meyer had a cell that was upwards of 90% that is not something to sneeze at!  I propose that some of you work with me in creating 70% efficient electrolysis because I believe it is attainable in the near future. If anyone thinks they have already done that I would like to work with you and incorporate my idea in a test car.  In the quest for the impossible we often over look the possible. Of course the opposite is true. Sometimes in the quest for the impossible we discover the possible! If we are to have mainstream
science take us seriously we must strive to use good science and real numbers.

[ramset]

MAG sounds good  Have you looked in on the cold electricity thread ? DR Stiffler  has apparently done a lot of research on hydrogen production and says he is going to share this knowledge here at overunity he is bringing a group of  people up to speed on a circuit right know and then will go to hydrogen production however I wood gladly assist you in any way possible because the ability you have to test in real time is just what is needed here  Chet

[magnetrecharge]

MAG sounds good  Have you looked in on the cold electricity thread ? DR Stiffler  has apparently done a lot of research on hydrogen production and says he is going to share this knowledge here at overunity he is bringing a group of  people up to speed on a circuit right know and then will go to hydrogen production however I wood gladly assist you in any way possible because the ability you have to test in real time is just what is needed here  Chet

That would be great.  Please keep me informed!  I will check out the other threads! I am a labview programmer by the way.
I have hardware to do the testing as well.