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Overunity Machines Forum



Strange effect!

Started by HTwoGo, September 06, 2007, 05:51:30 PM

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lltfdaniel1

double post (internet laged)

68:16 But by this, THEIR KNOWLEDGE (science - 1 Tim. 5:20), THEY PERISH, and by this also its power consumes them.

twh 1:1 Thousands of earth years ago,far away,in this galaxy,on the morning star(venus),the Lord Guardian Of Divinity,King ruler and Guardian of the Universe,put down a revolution led by Lucifer(Iblis)

lltfdaniel1

As far as what i know about the word static, is that , these overunity machines that work without fuel , with the word static that run on static,which do exist,

however when i come across the word static i think about free electrons >''energy from the vaccum'' from all these books i have read.

energy from the vacuum/aether is neutrinos in science, they work with a interfering process , and i have read some topics about the interfering process and neutrinos suit that purpose very well with these machines on this forum.

Neutrinos are a part of the process of photosynsesis in plants as well as many other things,and telsa who discovered radiant energy ( neutrinos) said that it has a part in the life system,and as far as i know  neutrinos also power the earths core as part of a catalyser.

so by the looks of it you have interference.

68:16 But by this, THEIR KNOWLEDGE (science - 1 Tim. 5:20), THEY PERISH, and by this also its power consumes them.

twh 1:1 Thousands of earth years ago,far away,in this galaxy,on the morning star(venus),the Lord Guardian Of Divinity,King ruler and Guardian of the Universe,put down a revolution led by Lucifer(Iblis)

HTwoGo

While coding a volt control ramp and step function, I came across a small current (red plot) breakdown at some 2.35V that I am able to repeat, any one else seen any thing like this? Any idea what it shows. The cell is not producing any gas at this point. The affect is small but there.

Best, HTwoGo

HTwoGo

Apologies for dropping off the radar for a while there but I decided that I had begun to run before I had learned to walk. My test rig is now running on an autonomous rack with supporting hardware correctly configured and not stacked all over the place, and piggybacking of my PC.
As far as the original strange effect of gaining weight initially I am still at a loss to explain this unequivocally, I have had the balance with the cell on it for days now without connections there is no anomaly but as soon as I run any current through the system, I always gain a tenth to a few tenths of a gram this is then masked by the cells off gassing. The balance makers do site electrostatics as a potential problem with finer balances, and that a conductive container will help, so this is for tomorrows run. The electrostatic effect is also impacted by the relative humidity which could explain the variability.
The cables seem to also add some creak to the balance in that the result seems sticky and seem to drop intermittently usually following vibration (mouse click on the bench?) in the same way a rope under tension will creak when flexed, I am going to investigated flexible PCBs next if they will carry the current.
The current setup has 700g of 2.5 meg/cm DI water with 1.08g of bicarb. The cell starts out at around 20 deg C this rises to some 65 deg C over the run of 200kW input, this will lose some 3g off weight most to gas but I still need to control the evaporation. The run starts out at 100W power input this drops off to a little over 50W at the end of the run and at some 65 deg C, after only 400kW through the cell the electrolyte has 10mm of mud in the bottom. The few tenths gain over 3 g loss is more than I am happy with but if I can keep it constant I will be able to live with it for the moment. The 3 g could also be way more, 30 g perhaps, if I can get the temperature rise under control. This would lose the error better.
I am currently putting a small argon gas muffle (box) together to allow me to do half decent job of annealing my plates, hopefully this will help with the mud problem.
If anyone asks I will post a pic of the current setup, if not once I have more to show.

Best, HTwoGo

HTwoGo

Strange effect solved?
The unexplained effect of initially apparently gaining weight has been eliminated but swapping the two current leads 4mm2 hi flex copper leads, silicone jacketed, with 2 brass foils without insulation, they are 0.003? (.0762mm) thick with a section of 3.0 mm2 each, the reported weight is now as expected with no creak or unexpected readings they are however susceptible to air currents, the temperature and voltage sensing leads do not have any measurable influence, so they will remain for the moment.
My current configuration will loose some 2.1 to 2.4g during a 200kW input mission, the efficiency increases with temperature, but my cell container is plastic and I have set a limit of 70 deg C (168 F) until I can safely verify that the container will go to 100 deg C.
My next task will plot the rate of weight loss (slope over last 60 sec) against the calculated instantaneous wattage input, this will nullify the drop-off of the watts absorbed by the cell. I am also going to half the electrolyte concentration to 0.5 g / 700g DI water, in an attempt to maintain the power input to the cell.

Best, HTwoGo