Back EMF vs Collapsed Spikes.....

[quantum1024]

@ Z_P_E

Calling upon an unwritten violation of electrical social order and good manners (good housekeeping seal of approval),"Faux Pas" in this statement is equivalent to me taking my several thousand dollars worth oscilloscopes and test equipment out to the garbage bin because they can't be used to measure voltage, current, time and yes...changing velocity!

What exactly do you think your signal generator is putting out? Frequency, or more to the point, (in an unstable form) frequency shift. (other wording ?changing velocity).

My belief is that as something goes up (against gravity) it takes more time/energy then when it's going down (with gravity, gaining energy), my scope traces don't lie, even with quantum mechanics and general/special theory of relativity this is so. (which i have checked)

In the above posts Libra-spirit gives hints to this, as mass shifts, drift velocity of electrons as opposed to electrons gaining energy (gaining velocity), and photon movement at C. Velocity plays a significant role.

From what I have seen, OU is there. It's at the peak, during reversal, and through the drop. The energy gains momentum (gravity), orders it ?self, is intense, high energy, velocity changing, reverse polarity half of a dc pulse. And Tesla was right-radiant.

Tesla (he is my demy-god, by the way LOL -did not have or use semi-conductors around during his time, I rest my case on that statement.

I'm looking for alternative ways of hookup. Your comments about faster diodes, caps and transformers is noted and appreciated. The problem that I have seen is that as soon as a load other then a capacitor on the out is applied I loose it drastically, maybe I?m doing something wrong in my output hookup???

@ Liberty, I?ll try it, sounds about right.

I will always appreciate your comments, and don?t take mine as the only one, since I probably don?t know very much either. Don?t take my words offensively, for they are not meant as such. We are all here trying to learn from each other and to have a little fun doing it. You are all very knowledgeable with different disciplines, different schooling, (which I just found out). This makes us all very unique.

[z_p_e]

@ Z_P_E

Calling upon an unwritten violation of electrical social order and good manners (good housekeeping seal of approval),"Faux Pas" in this statement is equivalent to me taking my several thousand dollars worth oscilloscopes and test equipment out to the garbage bin because they can't be used to measure voltage, current, time and yes...changing velocity!

What exactly do you think your signal generator is putting out? Frequency, or more to the point, (in an unstable form) frequency shift. (other wording ?changing velocity).

My belief is that as something goes up (against gravity) it takes more time/energy then when it's going down (with gravity, gaining energy), my scope traces don't lie, even with quantum mechanics and general/special theory of relativity this is so. (which i have checked)

In the above posts Libra-spirit gives hints to this, as mass shifts, drift velocity of electrons as opposed to electrons gaining energy (gaining velocity), and photon movement at C. Velocity plays a significant role.

From what I have seen, OU is there. It's at the peak, during reversal, and through the drop. The energy gains momentum (gravity), orders it ?self, is intense, high energy, velocity changing, reverse polarity half of a dc pulse. And Tesla was right-radiant.

Huh? What is it you are trying to say here?

Tesla (he is my demy-god, by the way LOL -did not have or use semi-conductors around during his time, I rest my case on that statement.

What case? Who said anything about semiconductors? It is irrelevant to this discussion. The point is that he used capacitive discharge, not IK. He had the capability at that time to do both.

I'm looking for alternative ways of hookup. Your comments about faster diodes, caps and transformers is noted and appreciated. The problem that I have seen is that as soon as a load other then a capacitor on the out is applied I loose it drastically, maybe I?m doing something wrong in my output hookup???

Again 

What is it you are trying to do exactly? You lose what exactly?

If it is the high voltage peak you are speaking of, then OF COURSE IT WILL BE REDUCED WITH ANYTHING OTHER THAN A CAP LOAD. All due respect, but with 30 years as a tech, you should know that a cap poses absolutely no load once it is charged up to its source peak voltage.

The whole point is to capture the IK WITHOUT destroying other components in your circuit, and your test equipment. It matters not whether you collect a 100A 1us pulse (high Vp) or a 1A 100us pulse (low Vp), it is the same total energy isn't it?

I would encourage you to check your foundation with the basics before delving into the esoteric.

[quantum1024]

Well, I guess I stuck my foot in on that one...

@ZPE... I can tell your a good individual, and don't take this the wrong way.. I wish you would read what you, I and others post prior to posting and saying "what?" and "what are you trying to say?"...as it's already all right their, everything you need to know. what more can i say..

[Grumpy]

Whle you two girls are rolling onthe floor, pulling each other's hair, I wanted to mention that the discharge of an inductor produces a very strong EMF, and the discharge of a capacitor produces a very strong MMF.

[quantum1024]

@Grumpy - lol what is MMF?

@libra spirit

there is a third force generated by the atom pushing at 90 degrees to the B field and 90 degrees to the E field.
This third force is only present during a change of current, and as the current comes up to a static level as with DC, the 90 degree motion producing force stops. All AC motors use this method to propell the coils. They are called induction motors.

what is the 3rd force you referr to? current,magnetics?