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Overunity Machines Forum



Working reconstruction of Peregrinus?s Wheel having cross-like stator

Started by Omnibus, September 08, 2007, 05:45:30 PM

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Omnibus

Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 09, 2007, 01:37:10 AM
G'day all,

Quote from: Omnibus on September 09, 2007, 01:27:25 AM
Violation of CoE has been proven beyond doubt. Energy can be produced out of nothing, out of no source. There's no question about that.

Where the hell did you get that idea from. How come the rest of the world is not aware of such a revolution in science. Or is this knowledge restricted to a privileged few like you and Lawrence Tseung?

Hans von Lieven
This I'm not going to discuss here since it has been discussed extensively elsewhere, this forum including. That CoE can be violated is proven beyond any doubt and isn't under discussion in this thread.

Humbugger

Quote from: Omnibus on September 09, 2007, 01:27:25 AM

... Unfortunately, there are many who because of incompetence and/or many different ill-conceived motives falsely lead one to believe they have achieved something. We know of not one such example. ...


Excellent!  While I'm still a confused non-physicist layman and "ignorant incompetent" when it comes to your mathematical proof of CoE violations by the SMOT device, I am very relieved that you acknowledge the utter failure to date to demonstrate any violation of CoE in a working physical and practical energy-producing machine despite the many false claims to the contrary. 

Maybe it is because of the sheer number and utter failure of these miserable claims that I have become so cynical and skeptical.  They are the reason I am so vocal when I hear false claims being reported and especially when they are used in any effort to garner research grants or investment money. 

All theoretical claims are fine with me (as if that really mattered); that's what drives the science.  It's these jokers asking people to donate or invest money and making wild claims, anecdotes, murky reports and faked demonstrations, the snake oil sellers, that drive me up the wall and cause me to attack with full skeptical zeal.

May the Force be with You

Humbugger

Omnibus

Violation of CoE has been demonstrated experimentally beyond any doubt in a physical energy-producing machine.

Humbugger

Quote from: Omnibus on September 09, 2007, 02:14:51 AM
Violation of CoE has been demonstrated experimentally beyond any doubt in a physical energy-producing machine.

"What remains is to harness this violation by a skillful engineering effort in a convenient straightforward practical device (the device proving violation of CoE can also be applied in practice but that isn't straightforward)."

I assume you are referring to the SMOT shown in this video. 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2383887636280790847

Is this the device that can be applied in practice but isn't straightforward?  Or is there another device I've missed?  If so, please describe any (even non-straightforward) practical application for us.

Humbugger






Omnibus

Quote from: Humbugger on September 09, 2007, 03:16:34 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on September 09, 2007, 02:14:51 AM
Violation of CoE has been demonstrated experimentally beyond any doubt in a physical energy-producing machine.

"What remains is to harness this violation by a skillful engineering effort in a convenient straightforward practical device (the device proving violation of CoE can also be applied in practice but that isn't straightforward)."

I assume you are referring to the SMOT shown in this video. 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2383887636280790847

Is this the device that can be applied in practice but isn't straightforward?  Or is there another device I've missed?  If so, please describe any (even non-straightforward) practical application for us.

Humbugger






Why? This thread is about Peregrinus' device.