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Breakthrough on cold fusion, did someone let the cat out of the bag?

Started by hansvonlieven, September 10, 2007, 05:02:47 PM

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hansvonlieven

G'day all,

The article below was posted on the newsgroup; sci.physics. fusion.

If someone has some palladium wire around and access to
some hydrogen this would be a simple experiment.

"Cold Fusion
The theory of cold fusion is that when hydrogen is adsorbed into
palladium
metal the hydrogen atoms get mixed with the electron "gas" in the
metal so
that the protons are able to pack close together so that meson
tunnelling
occurred. This makes a proton-proton atom (it is at a lower energy
level
than two separated protons) which then emits a positron to form
deuterium
which sits at a lower energy level level than the two hydrogen nuclei
it
came from.

The deuterons fuse in a similar way to form helium at a lower energy
again.

The positrons emitted combine with electrons emitting two gamma
photons at
the annihilation frequency the recoil of the nuclei formed make the
reaction
hot and some gamma photons escape.

If you put hydrogen in a tube with palladium filament suspended
inside after
a few days the filament glows red hot and after a while goes white
hot and
makes a very good lamp.

If I recall, I did this experiment at a government lab, somewhere in
England
in about 1969. I was severely punished for my invention and put on
routine
test work.


They said my invention was "strategic" and I should say nothing for
thirty
years.


Times up!

Chris."



Let's see what comes out of this one

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

JamesThomas

Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palladium on the Wikipedia page regarding Palladium, it says: Palladium's affinity for hydrogen led it to play an essential role in the Fleischmann-Pons experiment in 1989, also known as cold fusion...This metal has the uncommon ability to absorb up to 900 times its own volume of hydrogen at room temperatures. It is thought that this possibly forms palladium hydride (PdH2) but it is not yet clear if this is a true chemical compound...When palladium has absorbed large amounts of hydrogen, it can swell up, like a sponge full of water, visible to the naked eye.

It looks as if some certainly know of palladium/hydrogen paradoxes. The Fleischmann-Pons experiment of 1989, may be very informative.

j


We are not what we believe ourselves to be.

hansvonlieven

Exactly, though the interesting point here is that no deuterium is being used, just hydrogen and palladium.

Could it work??

I have no idea at this stage.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Prophmaji

Palladium is only what, $350 an ounce? The experiment could be easily done.....

hansvonlieven

G'day Prophmaji and all,

You only need a bit of wire, 50 to 80 bucks will pull it up, but since only the surface of a catalyst works perhaps palladium plated wire will do.(if it doesn't melt that is)

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx