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Overunity Machines Forum



flux laminator

Started by gaby de wilde, September 14, 2007, 11:08:43 AM

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Low-Q

Quote from: xpenzif on September 16, 2007, 01:24:46 AM
Quote from: gaby de wilde on September 15, 2007, 11:37:51 PM
Now I don't have the stuffs to test this theory.
If it hasn't been tested I wouldn't yet call it a theory.

Anyways, it would be nice if magnets worked like this, however I agree with sm0ky2 that the magnets should be attracted to the steel strips regardless of polarity. You can try this experiment to verify it:

The magnets will still be attracted to the steel regardless of the other magnet's presence.
At a critical distance between two equal poles, an iron plate between them will cancel out all forces by attracting to the magnets at the same time as the poles are repelling each other with equal force. If we call this state the "critical state", it should be possible to fight sticky points.

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gaby de wilde

Quote from: Low-Q on September 24, 2007, 01:28:09 PM
Quote from: xpenzif on September 16, 2007, 01:24:46 AM
Quote from: gaby de wilde on September 15, 2007, 11:37:51 PM
Now I don't have the stuffs to test this theory.
If it hasn't been tested I wouldn't yet call it a theory.

Anyways, it would be nice if magnets worked like this, however I agree with sm0ky2 that the magnets should be attracted to the steel strips regardless of polarity. You can try this experiment to verify it:

The magnets will still be attracted to the steel regardless of the other magnet's presence.
At a critical distance between two equal poles, an iron plate between them will cancel out all forces by attracting to the magnets at the same time as the poles are repelling each other with equal force. If we call this state the "critical state", it should be possible to fight sticky points.

Harper's New Monthly Magazine (March 1879, pp. 601-605)

The way I see it sticky points are not the problem, the device needs to generate torque. If it gets stuck we can always put a flywheel on it or a row of flux laminators. :P
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xpenzif

Quote from: gaby de wilde on September 24, 2007, 01:07:46 PM
I'm sure putting some coating on the strips is a good idea to try however. :)
How would a coating help?

Quote from: gaby de wilde on September 25, 2007, 04:26:42 AM
If it gets stuck we can always put a flywheel on it or a row of flux laminators. :P

A flywheel probably wouldn't help this design since you have to sacrifice energy to maintain the spin of the flywheel.

gaby de wilde

Quote from: xpenzif on September 25, 2007, 07:12:21 PM
Quote from: gaby de wilde on September 24, 2007, 01:07:46 PM
I'm sure putting some coating on the strips is a good idea to try however. :)
How would a coating help?

Look, you have to use something to separate the strips. Air is not the best magnetic insulator. I'm talking about trying things.

You are confused how trying things helps?

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Quote from: gaby de wilde on September 25, 2007, 04:26:42 AM
If it gets stuck we can always put a flywheel on it or a row of flux laminators. :P

A flywheel probably wouldn't help this design since you have to sacrifice energy to maintain the spin of the flywheel.

Look, if you don't understand why the flywheel is used then it doesn't mean it doesn't help.

What kind of help are you offering anyway?

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xpenzif

Quote from: gaby de wilde on October 08, 2007, 10:40:05 PM
Look, you have to use something to separate the strips. Air is not the best magnetic insulator. I'm talking about trying things.

You are confused how trying things helps?

I guess you can "try" everything, and then find out that there's no such coating that can effectively insulate your steel strips from the magnetic field.

Quote from: gaby de wilde on September 25, 2007, 04:26:42 AM
Look, if you don't understand why the flywheel is used then it doesn't mean it doesn't help.

What kind of help are you offering anyway?

Would I be of more help if I told you that all your ideas have no flaws and should not be questioned? ::)