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Overunity Machines Forum



new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion

Started by usama salah, September 15, 2007, 05:01:16 PM

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usama salah

thanks freeEnergy

you solved my great problem .

that exact what i mean but with another less complex technic and more simultaneity.
 

thanks again

hansvonlieven

G'day Gravitar,

The reason why the device does not work is because the forces on both sides are equal. Entropy explains it here so I just quote him.

Hans von Lieven

Quote from: Mr.Entropy on September 16, 2007, 10:09:05 PM
Hi Usama,

Quote from: usama salah on September 16, 2007, 08:35:48 PM
first let me ask a some questions:
1-  if we put 101 books each over other , every book = 1 kg ,
how much weight do the first book from bottom carry up = ????

2- if each book has 10cm then we have 1010 cm in high,
how much force we need to move one book up for 1010 cm at one second by any way of newton law =????

3- to make a perpetual motion ,
if we get the first book from the bottom out, then we have two actions 
    a- the 100 books will fall down for just 10 cm by  gravity power of 100 kg at less than one second
    b- we need less than 2 kg to move this free book up and put it on the top ( reconstruct the poiential power of 101 books).

The energy you get from the 100 1kg books falling 10cm is 100kg * 0.1m * 9.8 m/s2 = 98J.

The energy required to lift one book up 1000 cm is 1kg * 10m * 9.8 m/s2 = 98J.

Simple calculations like these show why these overbalanced wheel things never work on paper.  If they work in practice, it's because there's something about simple mechanics that we don't know.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Pirate88179

Hello all:

First post on here.  I have been experimenting in this field for over 20 years.  I can't believe there are others out there thinking about these types of devices. I just enjoy playing with magnets and discovering new things, well, things that are new to me anyway.

Usama, I am afraid that Hans and the others are correct in their analysis but, that does not mean don't try. Everything great that was discovered was done by those who ignored the accepted principles and succeeded anyway.  Like my Dad told me after we had invented and produced the first fully functional ceramic coil spring, he said we didn't know enough about it to know it could not be done, so we did it.  Best of luck to you and all of the others on here.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Mr.Entropy

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 19, 2007, 08:52:58 PM
Like my Dad told me after we had invented and produced the first fully functional ceramic coil spring, he said we didn't know enough about it to know it could not be done, so we did it.

A ceramic spring? That's amazing! Is there any information about it on the Web?

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

Pirate88179

Probably not.  This was done in the early 80's.  We machined many of them in different configurations for the aerospace and defense industries.  They have even flown on 2 shuttle missions.  No metal fatigue, very low coefficient of expansion so in space, the spring rate remains near constant.  Not affected by acid and non-metalic or magnetic so does not interfere with electrical fields.  We had a full page ad in the Thomas register for a few years that featured one of the springs. I don't think that would be on the web anywhere.  I lost my company in my divorce so I can no longer produce them.  I never looked on the net for this, I will try some searches.
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