Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.

[Motorcoach1]

@ GK - I ran across this circut in a kit and bought one a while back, what i did was wrap the diodes like an LMD set up from Borderland and JNL labs. the dipole was so great it blew up on me. after i went past 11kv. This can be lowered by removeing some of the caps and diodes in the ladder.Ã,   with the caps wraped inside the P coil that feeds the secondarie I feel will smooth out the chopper effect.

[giantkiller]

@ GK - I ran across this circut in a kit and bought one a while back, what i did was wrap the diodes like an LMD set up from Borderland and JNL labs. the dipole was so great it blew up on me. after i went past 11kv. This can be lowered by removeing some of the caps and diodes in the ladder.   with the caps wraped inside the P coil that feeds the secondarie I feel will smooth out the chopper effect.

I put a neon on the stun gun to squelch,  then I am putting the diodes on next, then the caps.
Good to hear from ya. Its been a while.

-giantkiller.

[Motorcoach1]

ok try this so the resonate mag field doesn't overlap and the DC converts to some Ac to help keep the circut running. instaed of the diodes put in chokes (verable) use a reeed switch to dump the diodes as soon as it gets a kick, the caps will act like switches instead of caps. on the scope you'll see a large smooth spike run across the top and another one forming as it crosses the centerline in the down side of the curve. also a jag that i'm not sure what it is but may be the resonate field reforming. (static eletrical field) just a thought.Ã,    EDit another thought is any resistors need to be metalwind carbon old style. the chokes don't have to be big ones 26 winds fine wire with steel incerts , and small diodes just to get it started and drop them out of the circut.

[aleks]

And this little beauty puts out 30kv @ 8A from a 9v battery with no internal spark gap.

Cool. Do you have a voltage/current dynamics plot for discharge?

[giantkiller]

@Aleks,
I have no readings. That is just a schematic from the web. What interested me was the lack of internal spark gap. The guns I have do have an internal gap.
I know that the 555 puts out square waves and maybe that is the reason to exclude the internal. The tip31 would shut off abruptly but not as fast as a gap. So now I want to see the coupling in my guns. The schematic shows no steel on the output stage. My guns have the steel core on the output stage. Steel, just like motorcoach mentions in the latest suggestion.

Now this is getting very interesting. With out the steel we have a long component ladder. With the steel we are coupling very short.
I will dig up the specs of what my Silicon switches that are in my guns. I blew the first one connecting the output of one gun to the trigger of another one. That is ok tho. I could use a coupling stage to avoid that. This shows that there is potential that is usable

You all have seen SM hold the 2 leads apart to get the blue sparks. If that gap is too wide then Steven becomes the gap. or someother place that is shorter:D

I have placed the gap of 2 wires across the body of a plastic covered electrolitic cap. I am nowhere near the terminals and the wires do not touch the cap. The sparks jump to the covering traveling around the outside in a curve! not an arc but actually across the surface circumference and jump to the other wire on the other side, 180 degrees out.

@motorcoach,
I will make the steel chokes. 1 set on steel washers and other set using nails.

--giantkiller.