Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.

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@GK - Just playing around the other night, I started with 50 feet of bailing wire and ended up with about 40 turns, 5" OD, 1 1/8" high, about 3/4" thick. I haven't done the math yet, though - yet another preparatory measure to be taken. Let's compare figures and see if we can work out a ratio that might serve as a reference in estimating these things in different builds.

Later tonight I'm going to secure the new core with zip ties, saw it in quarters, apply a film of lacquer/glue stuff for a little rigidity, then leave one zip tie in the middle of each segment and cut off the others. Winding can happen with a core segment completely inside a sleeve for support, then once the copper coils are wound the core segment can be moved and the final assembly should be fairly stable. So my pea brain says.

Shirt cardboard for the sleeve is an excellent suggestion, and I do plan to make it sorta loose but with enough friction to hold it all in place. The curve aspect shouldn't be so bad, as many shirt collar forms are already curved. Guess I need to visit Needless Markup for some project materials...

[giantkiller]

@GK - Just playing around the other night, I started with 50 feet of bailing wire and ended up with about 40 turns, 5" OD, 1 1/8" high, about 3/4" thick. I haven't done the math yet, though - yet another preparatory measure to be taken. Let's compare figures and see if we can work out a ratio that might serve as a reference in estimating these things in different builds.

Later tonight I'm going to secure the new core with zip ties, saw it in quarters, apply a film of lacquer/glue stuff for a little rigidity, then leave one zip tie in the middle of each segment and cut off the others. Winding can happen with a core segment completely inside a sleeve for support, then once the copper coils are wound the core segment can be moved and the final assembly should be fairly stable. So my pea brain says.

Shirt cardboard for the sleeve is an excellent suggestion, and I do plan to make it sorta loose but with enough friction to hold it all in place. The curve aspect shouldn't be so bad, as many shirt collar forms are already curved. Guess I need to visit Needless Markup for some project materials...

I had been using the low-profile, inline, flat head, 4" cable ties. I can't get them any more. The cable tie in the middle is along the lines I was thinking. I also use 3/4 heat tubing as rings or collars to secure the ends of the bundles. Tight but not a fictionless squeeze. Good to stablize to start winding. The cardboard collar is interesting. I have inventory of the polypenco nylon tubing from the ECD build i'll look into for a collar. You know? The clear vinyl 1" tubing would be a killer solution also. That way when the build is slipped on and complete, there could be a wrap or an inner sheath of polyclay in the ends of the tubings for a band tie compression hold. There would be a slit across the end where the tie falls thru to the polyclay or iron bundle. After all the iron is not conducting nor is the copper primary out of resonance. No heat. Probably don't need the polyclay. I have done this fastening before. The heat shrink tubing could be used the hold the iron ends together with hot glue. I have always held onto the coil being on the core directly tho. But in resonance the coil would be communicating quite well.

Well I got to get on this. My primary concern is picking the right frequency. Tesla mentioned 20khz at some point. but 5khz and 50hz are still hot. I will do the calcs to see how close these three are to using one coil.

[Localjoe]

@Gk


A thought would be to try sub harmonics of thi

A typical external standard sample is Fe(CO)5. Its absolute frequency is 3.237798 MHz with respect to 100.00 MHz for TMS

I know this is a little non sequetor but Phi has been mentioned placed strategicly too many times here for me to just let this one go, it may not be a key to this exp but is worth testing and recording effects while ya got the setup.
phi - .618 or Phi 1.618


http://www.mcs.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Knott/Fibonacci/phi.html

To square phi simply add 1 plus phi

Phi 1.618 x phi -.618 =1 ??
2Phi= 3.236...........   

For example

1.5 x .5 = .75
where as

1.618 x .618 = 0.999924

There has to be something to the math of combining em waves, gk please jump in here is it that the resultant that the square of the original two waves or whats the math . Reason being If using the phi values and harmonics this might lead way to a new understanding at least for me,

                                                                                            Joe

ps
  -Im finding the pat no's now and coorialting them to the serials to make sure i hate 10 pt font


last note- 20k tesla mention x 1.618 = 32360
               32360 / 5000 =6.472
               1.618 * 4  =6.472
               

                                                 

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  Please be aware of the control circuitry shielding from any ingoing energy differential that has any chance of taking over the steering wheel.  I just hate this torroidal energy sink because of it's potential for destruction. 

[giantkiller]

OK.... Let's surf!

Iron has latency. When the pulse drops the field still exists. We pulse it again. The new pulse rides on top of the previous dimishing resultant wave. But here we heterodyne into a higher amplitude. Remeber the last wave I posted? What is apparent between the drive pulses? Accumulation. No body caught or posted about it. Oh, the shame of it all! Ya'll should be wearing depends that day. Remeber when I said I would get the non symmetrical waves figured out? I achieved consistancy the next day. Oh, the shame of it all.
The scope shot before that was a blow out ramp up. When does this happen? During the saturation process. Why does it take time? The iron field is building up. That shot also showed accumulation above the pulse height. Muy Importante! Almost OU, no? Oui, oui?

So Rene do a 3d, bud. The undalting tube shaped wave going around the ring. With a kicker on it. It goes around, then it goes around, then it goes around with a passenger, then it goes around with a passenger and another passenger gets on, and it goes around and another passenger gets on. Pretty soon yas got a whole boat load of hitchhikers pushing and rocking the boat. The next job it to let the passengers gather on board but control the dancing and the jumping so that the thumping doesn't left the water slosh up over the rails. You wanna sink the boat? The easiest way to not do this is to use a 324 opamp as a current reader and then pull a pulse generation back or lower the lever of then next pulse to let the 'round and round' subside a little each time or whenever.

I am going to redo the setup and shoot a youtuber from the power on start till the FET blows. Just so the process can be seen. To put in other words: The iron transformer saturates.

It is amazing what one can buy at the hardware store while standing inline with other debt-ridden consumers that have 2 options: complain or rollover. Either way everyone submits. Not me! I go walking through hardware stores with coils in hand to put parts on and when people ask I tell 'em.

@LocalJoe,
I believe the combinations are obvious, apparent, and inherent.

--giantkiller. That's what I've seen.