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Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.

Started by giantkiller, September 22, 2007, 12:39:11 PM

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Localjoe

Quote from: armagdn03 on January 02, 2008, 05:04:43 PM
Quote from: Localjoe on January 02, 2008, 01:13:44 PM
Yes but still essential that the air flow is constant past the plates... when there at different distances it affects the capacitance of them. 


You are correct, you do need movement of air............if you want ozone. 

And what is the significance of increasing the capacitance?

Well a couple things i dont know exact direction your going with it so i'll be broad.

Obviously a larger capacitance would create more ozone between the plates. but the purpose for the air moving is the key in that flavor.Edit:- mabey a bubble forms between and around these plates and acts like a trap when the air is moving through and past it.  Its the constant motion of electrons past the plate from what I gather.

second thought brings me to .. if actually using a cap there the value of that and changing it would alter the the secondary lc circuit so at this point i say you could branch it two ways..

It could be a spot to tune the secondary lc circuit very finely in the wireless transmitting version

yet in another version of the tesla coil it could be used for hf hv output to later be stepped down..

comments if ive missed something or have been mislead in my research. always possible :)
                                                      Joe
GET THIS ONE - Bush wants to stop Iran from enriching uranium .. now as oberman said and others any drunk coke head can find out how to do this not just bush.

Also in reality Google has provided this info for some time.. so heres my point.

It's OK for GOOGLE TO PROVIDE INSTRUCTIONS FOR URANIUM ENRICHMENT but not OK FOR FOLKS TO SHARE TORRENTS OF MUSIC THEY POTENTIALLY OWN> AS WELL THEIR GOODS SHOULD BE SEIZED AND CHECKED AT AIRPORTS For copyright infringement.. ?????

This is the world we live in. More concerned if some exec doesn't get his buck than if some terrorist blows us to hell..

giantkiller

Quote from: armagdn03 on January 02, 2008, 05:04:43 PM
Quote from: Localjoe on January 02, 2008, 01:13:44 PM
Yes but still essential that the air flow is constant past the plates... when there at different distances it affects the capacitance of them. 


You are correct, you do need movement of air............if you want ozone. 

And what is the significance of increasing the capacitance?

Larger storage or greater area of compression in the plasma.

--giantkiller.

armagdn03

Quote from: Localjoe on January 02, 2008, 05:58:53 PM
Quote from: armagdn03 on January 02, 2008, 05:04:43 PM
Quote from: Localjoe on January 02, 2008, 01:13:44 PM
Yes but still essential that the air flow is constant past the plates... when there at different distances it affects the capacitance of them. 


You are correct, you do need movement of air............if you want ozone. 

And what is the significance of increasing the capacitance?

Well a couple things i dont know exact direction your going with it so i'll be broad.

Obviously a larger capacitance would create more ozone between the plates. but the purpose for the air moving is the key in that flavor.Edit:- mabey a bubble forms between and around these plates and acts like a trap when the air is moving through and past it.  Its the constant motion of electrons past the plate from what I gather.

second thought brings me to .. if actually using a cap there the value of that and changing it would alter the the secondary lc circuit so at this point i say you could branch it two ways..

It could be a spot to tune the secondary lc circuit very finely in the wireless transmitting version

yet in another version of the tesla coil it could be used for hf hv output to later be stepped down..

comments if ive missed something or have been mislead in my research. always possible :)
                                                      Joe

-Modern Mechanics and Inventions-


The secondary of the coil possesses usually such a high self-induction that the current through the wire is inappreciable, and may be so even when the terminals are joined by a conductor of small resistance.  If capacity is added to the terminals, self-induction is counteracted, and a stronger current is made to flow through the secondary, though its terminals are insulated from each other.  To one entirely unacquainted with the properties of alternating currents nothing will look more puzzling. 

Now, why would we add capacitance? I would awnser myself, but others have done better........

I wish I could turn my brain off sometimes, then I could get some sleep.

wattsup

We use ozone generators often in our industry for water sterilization or mineral oxidation. There are two main types of ozone generators used today. Corona discharge and Ultra Violet Lamps (working in the 254nm range). You can use air for ozone production but ideally, it must be dried air using a twin desiccant air dryer or the best to use is pure oxygen. Basically the arc discharge breaks up the bond between the two oxygen atoms O2 making two O1s. These O1s then combine with adjacent O2s to make O3 or ozone. You can notice ozone has a watermelon type smell that is very prevalent after a thunderstorm or when you turn on your photocopier.

You need air movement otherwise the chamber will quickly become saturated with ozone and will stop producing. Most units require 15 PSI of pressurized air to push through the unit. Generally, ozone is used in the 1% to 5% concentration level to achieve proper disinfection.

If you make such a device, make sure the room is properly ventilated. I once started up a 1 pound per day ozone generator. The output tube was not properly connected and blew off. The tube flew around and lodged right under my arm with the tube just under my face as I breathed in. My lungs per paralyzed for a good 2 minutes. I had to think hard to move my chest to breath. Powerful stuff so be careful.

armagdn03

I wish I could turn my brain off sometimes, then I could get some sleep.