Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.

[M@rcel]

Major setup change is I have wave generators but not a DC sinewave output. This is neccesary for all the coils mentioned.

Can't you put a (or more) battery in series to your wave generators to add a DC offset?

[giantkiller]

Single supply or bias by moving the potential in a dual supply. Single supply is easier. That is where I started originally. The xr-2206 genny supplys are plug and play. I can change at will. I was trying to express the need for single supply operation to get the sine wave above ground. This came to mind when I realized how many items that where posted it seemed to address. The magnetic, electrical, and physic effects all seem reproducable from this. I still have the class A stereo driver up and running. to. This has a bias that I need to see if it will change the Class A output upto class B. Never pushed it that far.
Anyway, I got things on the bench that I am really curious about. The more I build the more mystery goes away. And I don't mind building and testing.

The things I posted last are the culmination of alot of things, education and trials. I've seen alot of other things all come together from the Tesla patent view.

--giantkiller. As always I will post what is really proof.

[John M]

Nature works indirectly!  We must do the same!

It was recommended that we not charge a capacitor directly with currents derived directly from the source.  It was demonstrated that a circuit of high self-induction was better suited for the purpose of charging the capacitor!  If you require more detail in regards to the specific methodology, please reference the patents which have been pointed out time and time again.

The main capacitor is charged by the high self-induction, it, the capacitor is then discharged through the primary of a circuit of low self-induction (of which it forms a part), which is inductively connected with the secondary of a transformer.  The ends of the secondary winding in this particular patent ?568,177? are connected to plates P P.  It can be assumed that these plates are representing a capacitor, while serving as discharge electrodes for the purpose of ozone production.  The reason one can assume that these plates are the plates of a capacitor can be understood by studying 568,178.

Quote:
568,178 ? Method Of Regulating Apparatus For Producing Currents Of High Frequency
Pg.2 ? Line 125

see attached image...

?I have illustrated as a means well adapted for this purpose two metallic plates S S, adjustable to and from each other constituting the two armatures of the condenser.?
End Quote.

Hmmmm?

This is significant.  As it reveals yet another capacity of this circuit, (unspoken?illustrated?) the working circuit can be used to charge additional capacitors; capacitors which are far larger (capacity wise) than the capacitor being charged and discharged in the main circuit.  So far we see that we can make ozone, and now we know we can charge additional capacitors!  If you are having trouble wrapping your mind around what this means; if you cannot see what is being suggested, (demonstrated?patent wise) then you should get out of this business.  Yes?you are being told how Tesla devised an idiot proof method of getting more out then he put in?. don?t take my word for it? his is better?LOL?

Quote:

http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art07.html

Counsel
Speaking of your not having perfectly undamped waves at that time, you were referring to that character of circuit?

Tesla
Yes, but with another kind of circuit I could, of course. The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.

A common experiment, for instance, in my laboratory on Houston Street, was to pass through a coil energy at a rate of several thousand horsepower, put a piece of thick tinfoil on a stick, and approach it to that coil. The tinfoil would melt, and would not only melt, but while it was still in that form, it would be evaporated and the whole process took place in so small an interval of time that it was like a cannon shot. Instantly I put it there, there was an explosion. That was a striking experiment. It simply showed the power of the condenser, and at that time I was so reckless that in order to demonstrate to my visitors that my theories were correct, I would stick my head into that coil and I was not hurt; but, I would not do it now.

End Quote...

Well folks there you have it!  Straight from the horse!  Comprehend 568,177, and 568,178, and your off the grid!  Wait...that would be a claim.....LOL.....For the record....No....mine is not finished, and if and when it ever is, who cares!  Fact is the principles detailed in these patents are over 100 years old.  Please don't tell me we are more advanced....if this is true then it should be no problem for the educated and uneducated alike to comprehend and copy what is presented in those lines of text and illustrations. 

Oh...can we please stop discussing this here....this is Giantkillers Tread!  "Tell The Truth" was started for this!  My appologies Giantkiller!!!

Regards

Great post, but you can guess what some critics would say against it being overunity. The energy is just accumulated over time and released in a millisecond or less. That will result in much greater energy output but only for a fraction of the time it took to accumulate it.
Since I can't believe that Tesla was that stupid, there must be something to this.

John

[acerzw]

Some excellent posts regarding physical devices... since I am a theory person I have been doing some research and watched the videos on the Sympathetic Vibratory Physics website... which are really great... all about Keeley, but you can see that Russell and Keeley's work are clearly linked...

So I was inspired to come up with this idea... I would be the first to admit I am not an expert on Keeley or Russell... so this probably has been said before by someone somewhere and may contain errors, it is just a hypothesis since their ideas link to those that I have come across elsewhere, and I cannot help but think there is a link to the standing columnar waves seen in nature and the pyramids as well as the filamentary nature of plasma's in space...

I have many ideas in this area and this is very much a work in progress, you can bet this will be out of date a minute or two after I post it (version 4 already! EDIT: Make that 16... EDIT: 18), it is my main focus now... You are welcome to flame me regarding my mistakes or post corrections/ideas as you see fit...

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[giantkiller]

Moving waves are energy. Standing waves are matter.

The waves are of much higher frequency than our measurements. Russell promotes a large spectrum of light waves are the candidates.

--giantkiller.