Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.

[zerotensor]

There appears to be a converging zeitgeist around such toroidal topologies.

I just wanted to let you all know about the coil element I am designing, in case you haven't already seen it.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4009.msg73880.html#msg73880

I think we're on to something here.

[acerzw]

@GK

I always think of a coronal discharge as showing that energy is being wasted or excess produced, it is interesting that the TPU does not exhibit a corona...

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[scotty1]

Hi all...some other things from the Tesla article you should keep in mind.

Tesla

I mean that you have to have in the circuit, inertia. You have to have a large self-inductance in order that you may accomplish two things: First, a comparatively low frequency, which will reduce the radiation of the electromagnetic waves to a comparatively small value, and second, a great resonant effect. That is not possible in an antenna, for instance, of large capacity and small self-inductance. A large capacity and small self-inductance is the poorest kind of circuit which can be constructed; it gives a very small resonant effect. That was the reason why in my experiments in Colorado the energies were 1,000 times greater than in the present antennae.

Counsel

You say the energy was 1,000 times greater. Do you mean that the voltage was increased, or the current, or both?

Tesla

Yes [both]. To be more explicit, I take a very large self-inductance and a comparatively small capacity, which I have constructed in a certain way so that the electricity cannot leak out. I thus obtain a low frequency; but, as you know, the electromagnetic radiation is proportionate to the square root of the capacity divided by the self-induction. I do not permit the energy to go out; I accumulate in that circuit a tremendous energy. When the high potential is attained, if I want to give off electromagnetic waves, I do so, but I prefer to reduce those waves in quantity and pass a current into the earth, because electromagnetic wave energy is not recoverable while that [earth] current is entirely recoverable, being the energy stored in an elastic system.

Counsel

What elastic system do you refer to?

Tesla

I mean this: If you pass a current into a circuit with large self-induction, and no radiation takes place, and you have a low resistance, there is no possibility of this energy getting out into space; therefore, the impressed impulses accumulate.

Counsel

Let's see if I understand this correctly. If you have radiation or electromagnetic waves going from your system, the energy is wasted?

Tesla

Absolutely wasted. From my circuit you can get either electromagnetic waves, 90 percent of electromagnetic waves if you like, and 10 percent in the current energy that passes through the earth. Or, you can reverse the process and get 10 percent of the energy in electromagnetic waves and 90 percent in energy of the current that passes through the earth.

Scotty

[angryScientist]

Tesla

I mean this: If you pass a current into a circuit with large self-induction, and no radiation takes place, and you have a low resistance, there is no possibility of this energy getting out into space; therefore, the impressed impulses accumulate.

It sounds like he's talking about a high Q inductor.

The Quality factor or Q of a circuit. It is called the FIGURE OF MERIT of the inductor.

The Q of the inductor is therefore equal to the ratio of the inductive reactants to the effective resistance in series with it, and it approaches a high value as R approaches a low value. Thus, the more efficient the inductor, the lower the losses in it and the higher the Q.

http://books.google.com/books?id=X80QDoJ32oUC&pg=PA197&dq=q+quality+inductor&sig=MJWScTnCzVA-EVZDZDT-wnxBRa4#PPA197,M1

[sparks]

  Tesla was obviously talking about creating Earth bound standing waves.  By using low frequency this standing wave could cover alot of territory..   The rf flash over from such a wave would form an electrcial current in the ground which could be collected at the wave generator scource and be recoupled into the standing wave.   A receiver for this power need only be in the field of propogation of the standing wave to pickup on this current flow.  If the rf flash was controlled by hetrodyning a highfrequency harmonic of the standing wave in at the factory then a receiver could be constructed to be resonate at this higher frequency therefore not needing the size capacitance and inductance required to be resonate with the low frequency carrier wave. This would be the opposite of a modern day variable frequency drive used for driving electric motors where an extremely low frequency electrical current is created by amplitude modulation of a high frequency carrier wave.
  Perhaps Tesla discovered that when he created a standing wave at a low frequency in the ground it became resonant with a low frequency wave already traveling from the core of the Earth towards the surface.  Being the genious he was he realized that this was free energy.  Being the poor politician he was he went to the wrong people for funding and the tower came tumbling down.
   A tpu needs not be resonant at any given frequency.  It's potential energy is stored in spin velocity of the field.  Potential energy waves or quonta packets or photons whatever add to the spin velocity of the field just as they theoretically add to the spin velocity of electrons.  Conversion of this field spin velocity to electrical current takes place in the collector windings of the tpu.  Therefore the tpu first initiates an electrical hurricane so to speak and then converts inflow of potential energy into this low pressure field
into an electrical wind (current).