Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.

[tosky]

@giantkiller
There was a normal wave form usually happened in those unbalance(bias DC)  bridge circuit with a serious leakage inductance. no more energy, nothing surprised me. Before doing experiment at least work out a hypothetic theory. Otherwise, no direction to go, no next step, no progression. no more time, no more life.

[electric]

The Raving (or Edgar Allen Poe on Overunity-Apologies to GK)

On an OU thread so eerie,
As I plodded weak and weary,
O?er many a Tesla volume of forgotten lore,
As I nodded nearly napping,
Suddenly there came a tapping,
As of someone?s urgent rapping,
Rapping at my domain door,
Tis some newby, I muttered, clicking at my domain door,
Only this and nothing more.

Ah distinctly I remember,
It was in the bleak December,
And each separate posting member,
Posted posts on forum?s floor.
Vainly I had sought to borrow,
Tesla patent for the morrow,
From my books the cease of sorrow-sorrow for the GK4,
For the rare and radiant toroid simply called the GK4,
Kickless now forevermore.

And the certain ordered winding of each turn upon the ring,
Thrilled me - filled me with toroidal terrors never felt before;
So that now, to still the beating of my heart, I stood repeating
'Tis some Loner entreating access to my domain door -
Some late Ramset entreating access to my domain door; -
This it is, and nothing more,'

Presently I grew stronger; hesitating then no longer,
`Armageddon,' said I, `or Sparks, truly your forgiveness I implore;
But the fact is I was wrapping, and so gently you came tapping,
And so faintly you came rapping, rapping at my domain door,
That I scarce was sure I heard you' ? Skype-cams I do deplore; -
Blank screen there, and nothing more.

Deep into that flat-screen peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing,
Doubting, dreaming dreams no EE ever dared to dream before
But the flat-screen was unbroken, and the absent words no token,
And the only word there spoken was the whispered ?GK4?!
This I whispered, and an echo murmured back the ?the GK4?,
Merely this and nothing more.

Back into the cave returning, all my soul within me burning,
Soon again I heard a clicking somewhat louder than before.
`Surely,' said I, `surely that is something at my broadband modem;
Let me see then, what this noise is, and this mystery explore -
Let my heart be still a moment and this mystery explore; -
'Tis newby noise and nothing more!'

Open then I flung the domain, when, with screeching loud and profane,
In came a Raving of the OU days of yore.
Not the least obeisance made he; not a minute stopped or stayed he;
But, with mien of Steven Mark, perched inside my domain door -
Perched upon his rambling postings just inside my domain?s door -
Perched, and crapped, and nothing more.

Then this newby-nub beguiling my sad fancy into smiling,
By the grave and stern decorum that his postings did outpour,
?Though you may be misbehavin, you art sure no OU maven?.
Ghastly grim insistent Raving, shocking all the OU core -
Tell me what thy pseudo-name is, all the heroes do implore!'
Quoth Poynt-nine-nine, `Nevermore.'

Much I marvelled this ungainly newb to hear discourse so plainly,
Though its answer little meaning - little relevancy bore;
For we cannot help agreeing that no living human being
Ever yet was blessed with seeing newb within his domain door -
Newb or beast amongst researchers just inside our domain door,
Quoth Poynt-nine-nine `Nevermore.'

But the newby, sitting lonely on his raving posts, spoke only,
That one word, as if his soul in that one word he did outpour.
Nothing further then he uttered ? never coughed ?n never stuttered -
Till I scarcely more than muttered `Surely Otto knows the score -
On the morrow he will leave me, as my scopes have shown before.'
Quoth Poynt-nine-nine `Nevermore.'

Startled at the audio broken by reply so aptly spoken,
`Doubtless,' said I, `what it utters is its only stock and store,
Born from some cave master whom unmerciful disaster
Followed fast and followed faster till his posts one burden bore -
Till the dirges of his hope that melancholy burden bore
Of "Never-nevermore."'

But Poynt-nine-nine still beguiling all my sad soul into smiling,
Straight I wheeled a cushioned seat in front of flat-screen, Poynt and Core;
Then, upon the vinyl sinking, I betook myself to linking
Fancy unto fancy, thinking what this ominous Poynt of yore -
What this grim, ungainly, ghastly, gaunt, and ominous newb of yore
Meant in croaking `Nevermore.'

This I sat engaged in guessing, but no post expressing
To the newb whose fiery eyes now burned into my web-cam?s core;
This and more I sat divining, with my head at ease reclining
On the cushion's vinyl lining that the dim-light gloated o'er,
But whose violet vinyl lining with the dim-light gloating o'er,
Poynt shall press, ah, nevermore!

Then, methought, the air grew tenser, perfumed from a cigar denser
Smoked by SM whose foot-falls tinkled on the cement floor.
`Wretch,' I cried, `thy God hath lent thee - by these heroes he has sent thee,
Respite - respite and nepenthe from within my domain door!
Quaff, oh quaff this foamy brew, and honor the GK4!'
Quoth Poynt-nine-nine, `Nevermore.'

`Naysayer!' said I, `thing of EEvil! - poster still, if newb or devil! -
Whether Grumpy sent, or whether vortex accessed domain?s door,
Desolate yet all undaunted, on this virtual web enchanted -
On this home-page horror haunted - tell me truly, I implore -
Is there - is there power in OU? - tell me - tell me, I implore!'
Quoth Poynt-nine-nine, `Nevermore.'

`Naysayer!' said I, `thing of EEvil! - poster still, if newb or devil!
By that cyclone that whirls above us - by that Moab we both adore -
Tell this Mannix with sorrow laden if, within the future laden,
Pese shall power a ring wound to specs like the GK4 -
Power a rare and radiant toroid, based on ferrite core?'
Quoth Poynt-nine-nine, `Nevermore.'

`Be that word our sign of parting, Poynt-nine-nine!' I shrieked upstarting -
`Get thee back into the vortex of heavy ferrite core!
Leave no black smoke as a token of that lie thy soul hath spoken!
Leave my loneliness unbroken! ? stand inside the GK4!
Take thy probe from out my heart, and take thy prints from off my core!'
Quoth Poynt-nine-nine, `Nevermore.'

[giantkiller]

Bravo! and Touche'...

--giantkiller.

[tosky]

@Otto
How do you know the runaway condition is abnormal? Besides it is powerful High volt, what else you have got? From your description, it drawn large amount of current. So high power input for high power high voltage output is a normal thing. What I think if you could keep the runaway condition even one second when power supply has been cut off. Then I will agree something there. To fully light a 100W bulb only need about 110V. Assume the ferrite core is not saturated, only a few turns of wire is enough to step up the voltage, some circuits could also add to the source input to be higher volt. Mixing frequency could be more easy to step up voltage because of the phase peak wave addition.
If there is a DC bias exist, the voltage will at the positive side even with any waveform.
If you drive a coil without a capacitor connect in serial also lead to a positive side position in the scope at a positive phase. But you have to give some time to let the coil demagnetize. Please tell what make you so sure runaway condition is special case.

[giantkiller]

@Otto
How do you know the runaway condition is abnormal? Besides it is powerful High volt, what else you have got? From your description, it drawn large amount of current. So high power input for high power high voltage output is a normal thing. What I think if you could keep the runaway condition even one second when power supply has been cut off. Then I will agree something there. To fully light a 100W bulb only need about 110V. Assume the ferrite core is not saturated, only a few turns of wire is enough to step up the voltage, some circuits could also add to the source input to be higher volt. Mixing frequency could be more easy to step up voltage because of the phase peak wave addition.
If there is a DC bias exist, the voltage will at the positive side even with any waveform.
If you drive a coil without a capacitor connect in serial also lead to a positive side position in the scope at a positive phase. But you have to give some time to let the coil demagnetize. Please tell what make you so sure runaway condition is special case.

If he'd just put a slight limit in place he would'nt keep waking up on the  floor! LOL.
What is interesting in my aproach is a low input to get a high output. I got the spikes, no problem. But to produce enough of a condition to achieve run away takes higher input or like the ECD tests to match the geometery, the resonance with 2 or more coils with equivalent frequencies. Bam! Like Otto's and JDO300 results. You hit the copper bang on and it spits. How do we reach that kind of speed? Very tight resonance.

Tesla's fields produced great results by the size of the input voltage and resonance. His frequencies weren't that high. The upper limit I have seen is 20khz.

All these devices are mearly EMP producers.

--giantkiller.