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Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.

Started by giantkiller, September 22, 2007, 12:39:11 PM

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acerzw

@GK, Ist and bolt

I was not aware that the TPU had demonstrated problems when operated for extended periods of time (longer than the demo videos) due to degradation of the coil material caused by the stresses of the internal field interactions, at a molecular level. Were you aware of this? If so how do you plan on countering these issues?

In a compilation of SM's and witnesses statements regarding the TPU's operation, as recently reorganised and posted by duff, it says "The TPU units apparently heat up to a potentially dangerous level after a considerable period of time, and must be shut off at that point."

This and other quotes and Mannix's new information about SM trying to cool a TPU in the bath, raise serious issues regarding the TPU's reliability and safety. It is possible these issues can be overcome, I suspect, but they appear to make a complicated job a hell of a lot more complicated...

It is clear that the investment SM was seeking for further development was to be used, not just to take the TPU into production, but in an attempt to solve potentially fundamental problems which would prevent its mass production, which he must have been acutely aware of, but which very few others appear to have realised at the time.

See my posts, links below, on the 'General Discussion' threads explaining these issues:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3403.msg53195.html#msg53195
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3403.msg53201.html#msg53201

I was somewhat disheartened to write all that, some of it is my extrapolation, however I think the issues are important. I would however say that I am confident if they can be overcome it will be by someone on this forum...

Your comments on these issues? Is it just me being pessimistic? (In a way I hope so...eek)

Acerzw


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innovation_station

ha!

all can be worked out  ;)

but we first need to make it work b4 we can fix it lol!!

at this point i dont see a working ring public so to go any further with other problems is a wate time

we need the ring working public first

ist
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

bolt

Adam i answered inbetween your questions below,

Could it be that the upper coil core is tuned to the resonant frequency B of the lower coil  core as it?s A frequency? Yes very possible


The upper coil looks like it has the same diameter and circumference of the lower but has a smaller cross section. Could the tuning of the upper core loop to resonate at the B frequency of the lower be done with less windings to keep the circumference equal?

Yes increase the capacitor size although this looks unlikely. In the large TPU both caps appear to be the same size.


If you think as these upper and lower coil configurations as operating as circular Tesla coils in resonance with the upper resonating at and getting strength from lowers longitudinal energy and the windings of the upper operating in reverse to produce power at the upper Tesla coil complex primary winding, wouldn?t the core loop be of a ferrous material?

No i dont believe these are anything like Tesla coils and SM already stated no ferrous cores of any type.


In the videos the surface black tpu coating deforms around what looks like a winding that  is continuous around the entire tpu.

True and i suspect due to the construction of the the cut section either SM was a model aircraft builder or someone who made that tpu body was making typical aircraft construction. The covering is most likely to be a plastic film called SolarFilm you can google this.

Would this winding which contains both upper and lower coil complexes provide a means for feedback of the upper coil loop?s transverse wave energy back to the lower coil complex?

This is the voltage output coil, some portions of it will be used for feedback, control unit power supply and output power.

Sm states that the tpu gets it?s  power from the earth. So tuning the  lower coil core to perhaps the B frequency of the earth or some function of the earth?s em wavelength would be in order for resonance there.  Quite possibly yes.

I think this was mentioned in some way in the Naudin links somewhere  here. Do the two large capacitators in the center of the ring  perform a similar function as the capacitator on the coil in an automobile ignition system? No those caps were used for regular DC smoothing caps prior to dumping the output in to inverter SMPSU but they are not required for resistive loads ie light bulbs.

Otto discovered that the deflection coils can produce sine waves.  Do you think sm uses those to provide perfect control sinewaves from the control oscillator circuits which in them selves do not? Just a few thoughts here to get started.

I doubt there ever was perfect control only SOAR.


innovation_station

force feeding  ;D

why 3 freqs?!?!?!?!?

thats why 

in the operatinal tpu only 2 freqs ;D  third is made on its own and injected in or mixed in our balum and it is sent back through with the 2 freqs  :) that is our power

am i wrong


ist
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

giantkiller

Quote from: acerzw on October 05, 2007, 07:35:47 PM
@GK, you are the man!

I reckon the people in Africa can use this to dig their wells, and then place the GK4 at the bottom to power the pump.... ::)

'Always looking ahead' GK? Perhaps to an alien invasion? Or is it the MIB?

At last the real design for the BFG2000.... :P

GK I'll take one, just make sure I am in front of Wallmart...

Acerzw, practising in DOOM 3 until mine arrives... 8)

Oh and I really want the mini-version that you can keep in your shirt pocket for emergencies that looks like a pen...

In case you missed this one:
I tested a 2500 node network with Doom][ and came up with this little beauty.
I got your BFG! http://www.denver.net/~paul/phyzx.htm#Doomrod

--giantkiller. Any age, any rage...