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Overunity Machines Forum



Smot - A New Approach

Started by billmehess, September 29, 2007, 11:56:08 PM

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ChileanOne

Well, in all honesty, I think that this video is a very good way to see how SMOT is not OU.

In all SMOT experiments, the impression of OU is created because one is storing energy (unadvertedly) at the moment of placing the ball in the base of the ramp. Thus, the ball seems to shoot trough the ramp, but if you try to close the loop, it simply won't shoot trough the ramp again because the friction ate all the extra potential energy you added at the beginning with your hand, thus the ball gets stuck in the end of the ramp, where potential energy =0.

In the video that Bill is offering to us, he is clearly storing the potential energy only against the gravity field, not the magnetic field. Thus, the ball goes trough the track, enters the magnetic field with low energy and simply gets stuck in the magnetic field in a position of 0 potential energy.

I know that one could theoretically build a perpetual SMOT-looking-like device. But the engineering of it, and then the building of it, it's a daunting task. Perhaps it's a good educational project. Let's see if it becomes a reality in the next couple of years.


Pirate88179

QuoteBut mine worked well and pushed the ball, not pulled it.  If that is how you have it them ignore me.

Mr. Amos:

In my suggestion to generate some output from the SMOT I suggested the ball moving through a series of coils like in the shake lights. I made an assumption that the sphere was itself a magnet based upon your above statement.  Steel or iron is not reppelled by a magnet but attracted so if you were "pushing" it I figured it had to be a magnet.  This is why I suggested the coils which would generate a small current.  As far as I know passing a steel ball through a coil would not do anything. I may have said "Steel ball" in my response earlier when I meant sphere, or magnetic sphere. I hope I am explaining this correctly.  Thanks.

Bill
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hansvonlieven

G'day Bill.

Not a bad try. You are wasting a considerable amount of energy though by pushing the ball through this kind of pipe. The ball, in order to travel, has to push an air column in front or it as long as the tube itself. That is clearly wasteful. May I suggest drilling holes every half inch or so into the top of the tube along its entire length. This way the air has only a short way to travel in order to escape.

I am not suggesting that it will work, the difference might not be enough to overcome the hurdle, what I am saying though is that it will cut out a lot of resistance that you are currently experiencing.

Good Luck

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

hartiberlin

Quote from: ChileanOne on September 30, 2007, 12:09:04 PM


In all SMOT experiments, the impression of OU is created because one is storing energy (unadvertedly) at the moment of placing the ball in the base of the ramp.




WRONG  !

No energy needed !
Study it again.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Quote from: billmehess on September 29, 2007, 11:56:08 PM

I hope this is of interest
Bill
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_dBH_YKVlI


Hi Bill,
well built !

Please try to place a few iron core pieces at the end of the ramp, so you guide the flux there
away from the steel ball.
Also the steel ball must exit the ramp through the "blue hole" ( see the FEMM magnet simulations)
so you must built the ramp a little more longer and have the ball exit about an inch earlier at around 90 degrees
to the ramp....

Also the iron core pieces at the end will help guide the flux away.
Just add enough iron there, until the field is so distorted, that the ball
can exit easily.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum