Smot - A New Approach

[billmehess]

You would find that there is very lttle push from the smot. Place your finger at the top of the ramp and you will feel very little force when the ball hits it even at full force.
Don't waste time on gravity wheels- THEY DO NOT WORK!!!  they will always achieve equilibrium.
As far as a smot being capable of being OU I can say this without any reservation. If the goal of a closed loop is realized then by defult the smot is OU!!.
After all it is then capable of in effect recharging itself to keep running. It would be the same as dropping a ball and having the ball return to exactly the same height each time it was dropped. Currently this can never happen the ball will always have what is called "a coefficient of restitution" of less than one. One being returning to the same height each time. Now a closed loop smott would have the coefficient of resititution of 1 BUT since it also overcame friction and wind resistance its COR is more than one. Just trying to illustrate a point.
With a doubt a closed loop smot is OU a smot not closed is not.
How could a smot produce power?  Actually there is a number of ways. Since the ball is traveling throug a loop there is a vibration as the ball moves through. Quite possible electricity could be generated by stringing a piezoelectric configuration placed along the length of the return tube..
Think of a number of smotts side by side with a light magnetic shield between them generating energy from the piezo crystals all connected in series. Just a thought.
Also a small  windmill would easily be turned as the ball projects up the ramp. This again with other "windmills" ( one per smott) all connected in series. As a matter of fact here's a thought:
Ball goes up ramp spins small windmill connected to a small generator, ball drops though tube generating energy along it path by it's vibration being used in a piezoelectric configuration.
In the standard smot we see say on JLN Labs website the ball moves fairly slowly up the hardly inclined ramp. On my device because I am
really projecting this fast it would  turn a windmill blade,  To see if this would work I took a small plastic windmill and put in the path
of the ball. The ball shot thought it like it was even there and the blades spun. Obviouly very little torque to turn a generator but of course this is all very scaleable. Again hooking up x number of smott output in series might give us something. Again down the road thoughts.
The force from even my smoot would not push a gravity wheel setup - besides gravity wheels DO NOT WORK!!
One of the biggest challenges with smott technology has been to find away to rerout the ball from its drop point back to the smott and up the ramp. This has been achieved. We know that a ball will drop off the ramp under a lower height. So knowing that the problem seems to me that it is only necessary to "fine tune" the end to cause the ball to drop. Once it drops it will via the tube  take its self back to the smott enterence and up the ramp without any problem. I did that probably 200 times today.
Fine tuning the end is of course that "quantum leap" that Omnibus talked about. But since we know that we can get the ball to drop of the end of a smott with the correct config. of magnets and spacing (thus fine tuning) is this then really not possible with the more inclined ramp?  I Believe  there are ways of fine tuning the end by placing a magnet at the end of the ramp to "pull" the ball out from the magetic hold of the end magnets but not quite strong enough that the ball becomes attached to it.
In other words a precision adjustment config. to change distance and angle to achieve the point where that ball seperates from the end and falls into the return channel. I will be working on this idea all day on Wed.
Will keep you advised.
Its 11:30 pm Tues here in Oregon. Good night all
Bill

[zero]

just an idea..

But what about using 2 or more balls?

Basically, one sitting on the top of the smot ramp that can not escape
the feild..     Yet another ball launches up and smashes into it with
great speed and force - knocking the other ball back thru the loop...
continuing the cycle.

[Freezer]

just an idea..

But what about using 2 or more balls?

Basically, one sitting on the top of the smot ramp that can not escape
the feild..     Yet another ball launches up and smashes into it with
great speed and force - knocking the other ball back thru the loop...
continuing the cycle.

I read through the whole thread thinking that same thing.  I saw the video posted of two balls being smacked together, and they ball seem to accelerate at a good speed.

I also thought of a toy you could make with this.  Have a little miniature Indiana Jones being chased by the ball.

[billmehess]

Here's the next step towards closing the loop with a smot.
1. The ball projects up the smot ramp
2. The ball exits the end because of the attraction of the 3 stacked permanent magnets.
3. The ball stikes the permanent magnet causing a gauss rifle effect to occur
4. The last ball in the series projects down the loop and loops all around to the front of the smot ramp where it is drawn up and the process is repeated.

It all happens so fast it is really hard for me to capture it on my camera.
It do not believe this is really yet closing the loop because each ball does not really go all the way around. In effect one hits the other and via a gauss rifle effect causes the second ball to project all the way around. And this happens two times in a row for two complete loops.
Also the balls will gang up on the permanent magnet when it projects off the end of the smot.
I do feel it is another step closer.
First step was to see if it is possible to loop via the tube
Second step to actually loop around
Again I apoligize for the quality of the video.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9GdWUOHyLM

Its really quite fun to see this thing work!!

Bill

[Pirate88179]

Bill:

I have to agree with you that that may be one step closer to a closed loop. This is telling us something. I salute your investigations and experimentations.  Keep it up.

Bill