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TPU - General Discussion

Started by z_p_e, October 01, 2007, 11:32:43 PM

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BEP

Quote from: EMdevices on October 07, 2007, 10:22:11 PM

@BEP, I'll be right behind you in those experiments.  Good thinking in the design.   Using multiple thin Iron wires in a bundle will keep down the eddy current losses and the HEAT.  The low 1 Hz resonance is amazing. I was getting 120 Hz, but I deduced it was comming from the grid through my transformer (overloaded)  :)   I need to start using batteries.


The 1HZ wasn't resonance I forced it down that far. The coil resonance was abot 2.5k. The magnetostrictive resonance is probably under 45Hz.
The bundle idea was from McFarland Cook  :)

tao

A slight sample of what a magnetostrictively operated TPU might do in water, and why it must be allowed to vibrate 'freely' (as EMDevices put it...)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6821818183625131337&q=magnetostrictive&total=4&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

:o

TheNOP

QuoteI remember when it was mentioned that when a running tpu was put in a bath of water it was a complete disaster because  in the air some give to the vibration is allowed and the water did not allow it.
What were the TPU preparations for the test ?
Fully sealed or like in the video ?

I have just saw a MIT lecture about coils levitation.
Due to eddy current...
Quote from: SMThe destructive heating caused by the eddy currents ,
become the problem we face when we make a really large powerful coil.
Look like scaling up could be a problem, but it is also present in the smaller TPUs.

So...
How eddy current created ?
how does the distance, relative to the surface of the material in witch it is induce, affect it ?
what would be the effect of putting water in between ?
Does eddy current have it own magnetic field ?

For some of those questions i have an answere, some i don't.

Earl

Quote from: Earl on October 07, 2007, 02:30:36 PM
If the Earth did not rotate, gravity alone would not cause any water vortexes.

Quote from: z_p_e on October 07, 2007, 03:17:53 PM
Indeed water does not require the rotation of the earth to rotate into a vortex. As long as gravity is present, the water will form into a vortex on its own, but the vortex direction will be determined by chaotic imperfections in the holding container, and hence will be random on a case by case basis.

In EE class many years ago, the professor was drawing circuits on the blackboard and some smart ass raised his hand and said "but the coil has resistance in it".  The professor without hesitation replied "not this coil, it has zero resistance because it is made out of chalk."

My bathtub is a perfect bathtub with no imperfections whatsoever.  With only aether flux flowing to the Earth (what you call gravity) and no Earth rotation, there is NO vortex formed.

Quote from: z_p_e on October 07, 2007, 03:17:53 PM
In fact, water can be "encouraged" to rotate in a direction opposite its natural tendency due to the earth's rotation, simply by stirring it up manually before "pulling the plug".

But what is the purpose of doing this?  If you rotate the TPU's magnetic or electric field in the wrong direction it won't work.  For this reason, the electronics must be able to rotate in either direction.  If you get it wrong, you will have no success, so it better be switchable.

Quote from: z_p_e on October 07, 2007, 03:17:53 PM
So for all intents and purposes, water will form into a vortex under the influence of a rotating earth or not...as long as "gravity" is present.

Negative, Earth rotation is necessary.

Quote from: z_p_e on October 07, 2007, 03:17:53 PM
Call "gravity" whatever you wish; its effect is what matters, .......

Just the opposite is true; it is the CAUSE of you being stuck to the Earth's surface that is important.
It makes a difference of night and day whether you are being attracted to Earth, or whether you are being pushed to the Earth.

If you think that when you jump in the air, you are attracted back to the Earth, then in my opinion you will never be able to understand the operation of the TPU.

Quote from: z_p_e on October 07, 2007, 03:17:53 PM
... and the fact that gravity has no significant effect on electromagnetics, can only mean the TPU does not operate on any principles involving gravity.

Many people suspect that "gravity" is electromagnetic.

Since there are numerous reports of spacecraft that manipulate "gravity" in order to levitate cause interference to radios, gasoline motors stopping because the high-voltage coil no longer funtions, etc., etc., I would not be so quick to jump to a conclusion that gravity does not effect EM.


Some here have the theory that the TPU operates on a magnetorestrictive principle.  The arguments brought forward are not trival and sound convincing.  It could very well be that brand x TPU could operate OU due to magnetostriction.  However, the SM TPU stops functioning when turned upside down.  If SM's TPU operation was based solely on magnetostriction, turning it upside down would have no effect.
My pet theory is still that the SM TPU harnesses the same aether that is pushing you to planet Earth.  Whether this aether vortex makes connection to the ionosphere for OU or not, I am still undecided.

Regards, Earl
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acerzw

@Earl

If you can wade through it, and wade is the right word, it might be worth you checking out the free ebooks on the Divine Cosmos website, there are nuggets in there regarding the energy flowing into the earth and the large pyramids the Russians experimented with outside of Moscow. Many of their findings regarding the really massive detectable energy effectsn it produced, such as a very large column of energy above the apex tend to support your ideas.

I too think that this is energy, which ultimately comes from the Sun, is the source of the TPU's power rather than the Schumman resonance directly.The pyramid shape when aligned correctly, has always been used historically to harness this energy because it is the simplest way of doing it. Now with electronics it appears SM has created a rotating magnetic vortex which sucks this energy in, which is equivalent to one formed inside of a pyramid due to its geometric resonant properites. However SM has the upper hand as he controls the vortex directly with his electronics, where as the pyramids static geometric nature prevents this, so he is able to obtain much more energy from it.

Some of the DVD's on crystals show the link between a pyramids energetic vortex, which is essentially the same in nature as that of the ones formed inside crystals and the Suns energy.

Indeed the several OU pyramid energy generation devices that have periodically appeared on google, the last of which brought from the designer support your idea, they are however generally low powered as they only collect the energy from the pyramids natural geometric vortex, rather than creating an high power artificial one.

There may be several effects in SM's TPU that contribute the OU power, magnetorestrictive contraction and release causing BEMF to be produced as well as a rotating magnetic field causing a vortex that sucks in the Suns energy stream to the Earth. This might be why SM could not be sure it was the Schumman Energy...

Acerzw

P.S   As it is simple and so am I, I actualy built one of these! Yes, it keeps a glass of water fresh almost indefinetly and sharpens razors too, thinking about test its power generation capabilites at a later stage. Coil inside a pyramid anyone, sounds right about down Otto's street...
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