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TPU - General Discussion

Started by z_p_e, October 01, 2007, 11:32:43 PM

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innovation_station

@ whats up still wateing to hear what your core material is....   you round?

any how i finished the coil i was working on it lites a 9v led to 1/2 brightness from my freq genny set to 1 v square waves at 20 khz

not the results im after...   but it could be not enough secondary winds ..  tesla states a short fat primary ...  and a secondary of a much thinner longer wire so.... i used what i had handy...

here is the pic    no i did not say this dosent work but just not as well as i would like ...

ist

To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

wattsup

@IS

I just got back from Ottawa for the weekend. I don't know why but the JPG's you posted are not visible. I tried them in many ways and no go.

About pulsing both - and + of the primary, that's exactly what I was doing to the primary of the working transformer with the Erfinder Challenge circuit and it did work the  best. But again, it gave good voltage rise but bad amperage and this is one of the reason I am thinking about multiple secondaries.

For the core type in my drawing, I am more inclined towards an air core but obviously, since curiosity will gain over me, I will also try a ferrite core. But I am more inclined to air core simply because if many pri/sec winds are on the same ferrite, this could cause an unknown effect that may lean towards cancellation, whereas with the air core, this cannot happen.

A 24 awg primary wire is 804.5 feet per pound and a 32 AWG secondary is 4995 feet per pound giving me a 6.2:1 sec/pri ratio to have both winds weight the same. This I feel is where alot of us are going wrong.

I want to make a very small toroid and a medium toroid and compare them with the same frequencies and see the coupling differences. I think @EM could probably use this in his circuit also using real mag wire instead of the insulated wires they are using now.

I'll post my results when it is done.

gyulasun

Quote from: wattsup on August 10, 2008, 04:48:35 PM
@IS

....    I don't know why but the JPG's you posted are not visible. I tried them in many ways and no go.


I experience the same at my home computer too, in almost every case of his (innovation_station) uploaded pictures for weeks now.  And at my office computer I still cannot see it first when I open a thread where he uploded a picture but at least I can download it it see them that way in most of the cases (but even this is not in every case).  Very strange,  pictures uploaded by anybody else come through correctly for me both at home and at office.

rgds,  Gyula

poynt99

quote from Steven:

QuoteThe problem is... You still don't have enough information to help facilitate your building and execution of the collector. That is what I believe to be the strategic problem.

JC, and i thought this was the easy part. if we haven't even got the collector right, what hope in hell do we have?  ???
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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wattsup

@poynt99

Yep, you bring up a good point about the collector.

We have to ask ourselves first of all why is it called a collector, who called it a collector first, someone on this forum or SM (I say it was someone on this forum).

Even if it was SM, who said it first and I don't have the time required to research this in depth, so anyone who is willing, by all means. But even if it was SM, what would the word collector mean for him.

If you know somethig about EE and transistors, the collector is what received energy to then provide to an emmitter that is then used to excite something or drive something. I would put this as the true anaolgy.

Most forum members consider the collector the one that recieves the final energy gain going to output, but why would you want to send a side-stream energy into or excite the collector if it is the TPU output. You would want to excite the collector if it was then sending this energy to an emitter device that then creates a pulsing field. I think this one point is where many have strayed for a long time, myself included.

If the collector received energy from the TPU output, then sends this via the emmiter at pulsed timings given to the base, to discharge into a primary that has two secondaries, one called an output secondary and one called a collector secondary, the collector secondary then sends this energy back to the transitor collector that then finishes the loop. This would then run with gain.

Anyways, good point indeed.