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TPU - General Discussion

Started by z_p_e, October 01, 2007, 11:32:43 PM

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z_p_e

Earl,

In terms of the effects I see on my bench, the argument of whether gravity is an attraction from within the earth, or a repulsion towards the earth is of no consequence.

What I see is no effect on magnetics or electric potentials, and you still have not addressed that question.

It boggles my mind. SM has already provided enough information and clues as to the underlying principle and folks either ignore it or are totally oblivious to it.

z_p_e

Quote from: -[marco]- on October 07, 2007, 02:01:50 PM
hi  :)
as my memory serves me right there was also something about drawing a lens when velocity becomes extreme.
some people claim gravity itself is a electric/magnetic force.
i do not know what it is, but i do think it is convertible into another form or forms of energy.

is there anybody getting positive results or am i the only one seeing intresting things?

M.

Hi Marco.

What kind of things are you seeing and what is your setup?

Esa Maunu

The method how TPU converts energy from external magnetic field is done by taking a precession energy from electron, when electron is wobbling under phonon pulse. Sharp phonon pulse comes from magnetostrictive material, when control coils makes an magnetic field around composite core material, that includes both ferromagnetic and magnetostrictive particles.
This created sharp phonon pulse we can call also as a "kick", when it pushes electron precession to wobble. When electron`s precession axis direction is changed from the direction of the external magnetic field lines, electron releases a part of it`s energy in a form of photon. Photon is now a energy carrier and is able to give it`s energy to free electron, that exsist`s on collector wire. To start the tpu, there needs to be free electrons available on collector coil for photons energy, this can be done by applying a bias current to collector coil.
This technology is used also with electron tubes, when photon`s energy is transferred inside the electron tube.
Idea with a TPU is that we need only a realtively small amount of enegy in a control coil to wobble electron precession and have a energy emission in a form of photon. External magnetic field during pulses moves electron precession axis back to be in parallel direction with a magnetic field and gives it`s energy again to electron.
Also SEG works with this principle, when deformation in a  crystallic metal releases phonon pulses as rollers are moving around the stator.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect

Esa


BEP

Quote from: z_p_e on October 08, 2007, 09:26:56 AM
It boggles my mind. SM has already provided enough information and clues as to the underlying principle and folks either ignore it or are totally oblivious to it.

I hate to start something but what really boggles my mind are statements like that. Yes. I've made them too. But now that I think about it if all the clues are there then someone, out of the billions that live here, would have a working device - not just claimed but one that is verifiable.

Same goes for the BB devices and I'm sure many others.

I don't know for sure what makes these things tick or the world around me. All I do know is what is written is always missing something or based on failed observations or personal philosophical flavor.
What is gravity? What is skin effect? Who cares? It would be great to know and minimize this work if understood correctly. Right now I know the final result is the same regardless of the cause - for both.
I seriously doubt gravity is the major player for the reason the TPU 'supposedly' won't work upside down. My EMP won't work upside down, unless you want to break the thing it is sitting on. I can?t even image what it would do in a tub of water.

@Esa Maunu

Have you seen any of your statement proven or repeated parts on a work bench? (Now I sound like you guys when I came bursting on!)
All of what you say is old information here. The question is - Can you put it in practice and document all of it so others can benefit?

Also - I have a fair amount of experience with SEGs. I haven't found a one that worked or been able to reproduce a working model from the information available.
What I have found is that some of the theory pans out but most of it is a flight into theology.


EMdevices

QuoteThe method how TPU converts energy from external magnetic field is done by taking a precession energy from electron, when electron is wobbling under phonon pulse. Sharp phonon pulse comes from magnetostrictive material, when control coils makes an magnetic field around composite core material, that includes both ferromagnetic and magnetostrictive particles.....
Esa Manu


I like what you worte Esa.Ã,  Magnetostriction invovles aligning the domains and when they align they also lengthen the material.Ã,  So energy has to come from the atoms themselves, I totaly agree.Ã,  And since atoms are electrodynamic entities, spinning charge, etc.., the play of energy through precessions, etc.. can be quite complex and I'm no quatum physicist, but on the surface I can tell it has to come from the atom.Ã,   Also Nuclear Magnetic Resoance, which uses precession of the atoms, can also be at work here.Ã,  And since Gravity afects atoms, Gravity can play a part. So ultimately energy can come from the cosmos for all I'm concerned.Ã, 

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But from a more practical viewpoint, I'm convinced of the following right now:

1) Magnetostriction is the actuating principle causing VIBRATION from pulsating coils.

2) This VIBRATION is put to good use and by INDUCTION induces current in the output coil.Ã,  (like a guitar pickup coil, and SPEED is key, like SM talked about, the faster the vibration the higher the induced voltage)

3) FEEDBACK is used to drive the INPUT COILS from the OUTPUT COILS.Ã,  (this is the part that will be tricky, since we need the correct phase, much like in designing an oscillator) and voltage and VIBRATIONAL LEVELS will build REALY REALY HIGH



@tao

nice video link.Ã,  wow.Ã,  talk about rapid cleaning.Ã,   I use to work for a company that cleaned parts in an ultrasonic bath, very cool to watch.

EM