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DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project

Started by hansvonlieven, October 03, 2007, 02:04:46 AM

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Evil Roy Slade

@Fritz,

Thanks for the links. It's good learn something every day!
The 'swapping' refers to individual protons rather than whole atoms.
I don't know what this means in the whole scheme of things nevertheless I think it
is worth pursuing. Given that I am certainly not a chemistry expert I will refer this to
a real chemist and see what he thinks. Will let you know the outcome.

@Hans
I see a little light at the end of the Keely tunnel after reading your stuff.
Need to get my head around a few things before continuing this little debate.
Thanks for you input.

ERS
I thought I was wrong once...but I was mistaken.    Oscar Wilde.

Evil Roy Slade

Not sure if you guys have seen this yet...but just in case:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiKa4nOkHLw

I would love to know what the power output of the uwave generator is!
ERS
I thought I was wrong once...but I was mistaken.    Oscar Wilde.

fritz

Dear All,

Just want to tell you some experience of a "hands on"
experiment some months ago. Sometimes it takes a little bit to understand.

Glass of water, filled with approx. 180ml of water (normal water).
Piezo disc with 2 wires attached inside the water, operated with
sinus generator (fixed output resistance(50 Ohms), constant output
voltage. Monitoring the voltage and the current with probes hooked up
to my oscilloscope.
Starting with audio frequencies.
Complete identical behaviour as if the disc would be operated outside.
Most of the energy is spent by bending the disk.
Then if you hit the first mechanical resonance frequency (of the disc)something happens -
the voltage goes up, the current goes down - the "resistance" seen by the generator
goes up.
Now the disc can store some of the energy needed to bend in its own oscillation.
The impedance (voltage, current) seen by the generator and on my scope
is now absolutely sensitive to the water (because a slight change in the local water
pressure would change the resonance frequency of the disc).
Even tilting the glass slightly has a prompt response on that.

Now you can say - well the efficiency goes up using a mechanical resonance
of the disc - but sticking to keely?s language - you set the mass chord for the
resonator. Now most of the emitted energy can be transfered into the media
because the mass of the emitter is "compensated" due to the fact that its
oscillating on its resonance frequency ....

(...)
rgds.

hansvonlieven

G'day Fritz,

Well done, now try taking it one step further, put some sort of regenerative feedback into the system to allow the frequencies to "run away" and see what happens.

Hans
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

JackDaniels