SMOT! - (previously about the OC MPMM)

[Omnibus]

Here's a good one from @Grimer which is in reply to this "Come on folks, this video is either a ***fake/lie*** (bingo) or it's capturing energy from an unknown source or by means of an unknown method."

"... Al seems incapable of facing that possibility and keeps repeating "there ain't no free lunch" as though that mantra will exorcise the demon from his motor."

[tinu]

@Omnibus,

User isn?t imparting magnetic potential from A to B?!!
Are you a real physicist or what? This is the second big googoo on the same page!
Then what is (Mb-Ma) that appears in your equation mgh1+Mb-Ma?

I?ve told you a long time ago that just because you approach a ball to a magnetic setup it doesn?t mean that the magnets attract the ball and you don?t have to do work. But you don?t read or you don?t think about what you read.

Here is the same explanation, different wording so maybe you?ll finally see your mistake: THE BALL DOES NOT FREELY ENTER INTO THE SMOT. From B it equally can move toward C as well as toward the outside of SMOT. What does it means, doc? It means that the magnetic potential in B does not help you in placing the ball there when coming from A or from any other outside point. Magnetic field opposes to your force! You have to do more work than mgh1 when placing the ball in B in the presence of SMOT! Mb-Ma is always positive. mgh1+Mb-Ma>mgh1. Clear enough?

The moment when you experimentally prove that a ball is freely entering into the SMOT on a horizontal path, I just might agree that the user is not imparting magnetic potential. But since this is not the case, please review your wrong views. The only one who is incorrect here is you. All other people, physicists or not, have the common sense to see that you?re selling vegetables to the gardener.

And it?s also the time for you to forget about the other mistake in potential energy. The ball has in B any potential energy one might want to define. Saying it has mgh1+Mb means exactly the same as saying it has mgh1+Mb+C, as long as C is consistently applied to every potential energy under discussion.

Cheers,
Tinu

[Omnibus]

@tinu,

I read that and stopped reading further:

"User isn?t imparting magnetic potential from A to B?!!
Are you a real physicist or what? "

Please, learn first that user isn't imparting magnetic potential energy when moving the ball from A to B (when moving from A to B the ball is losing magnetic potential energy) and then come back.

[tinu]

Read further and learn.
See you tomorrow.

[oak]

Anyone who is considering engaging with Omnibus on the issue of whether SMOT violates CoE might first want to take a look at these two threads:

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=23341&page=1
(2 weeks in November 2006 -- 363 posts)

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13991&page=1
(Sept. 2006 to July 2007 -- 3972 posts)

And then at these petition threads:

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=23321&page=1

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=60135&page=1

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=60134&page=1

And if you get through those, there are plenty more!

Now, what is the title of THIS thread?  Notice anything funny about the last five pages?