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SMOT! - (previously about the OC MPMM)

Started by rotorhead, October 03, 2007, 11:01:31 PM

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modervador

Quote from: Low-Q on January 21, 2008, 10:02:42 AM
However, the math posted this far is incomplete.

I've taken the liberty of posting a summary of the maths so far:

Ea(initial) = Ma
Ein = Ehand = (mgh1 ? (Ma ? Mb))
Eb = Ea(initial) + Ehand = Ma + (mgh1 ? (Ma ? Mb)) = Mb + mgh1
Ec = (mgh1 + mgh2 + Kc) = Mb + mgh1 = Ea(initial) + Ehand
Kc = Mb ? mgh2
Ea(final) = Ma + Ka = (mgh1 + mgh2 + Kc)
Ka = (mgh1 + mgh2 + Kc) ? Ma = (Mb + mgh1) ? Ma = (mgh1 ? (Ma ? Mb)) = Ehand
Ea(final) = Ma + Ka = Ea(initial) + Ehand.
Eout = Ea(final) ? Ea(initial) = [Ea(initial) + Ehand] ? Ea(initial) = Ehand
Egain = Eout ? Ein = Ehand ? Ehand


Omnibus

I think Stefan should close this thread.  As seen, it has been categorically proven that SMOT violates CoE and no more exercise in confusion is necessary.

Omnibus

@modervador,

Now that you understand that I was right and that SMOT violates CoE you should go back to the Seorn forum where we know each other from, should open a thread there and should try to clarify their confusion regarding this. That's the honorable thing to do.

modervador

Quote from: Omnibus on January 21, 2008, 07:36:38 PM
@modervador,

Now that you understand that I was right and that SMOT violates CoE you should go back to the Seorn forum where we know each other from, should open a thread there and should try to clarify their confusion regarding this. That's the honorable thing to do.
I think that's a useful approach. Before I do that, I need to confirm a few details so that I can write a treatise that is convincing enough out of the gate to be protected from a barrage of questions arising from misinterpretation or ignorance.

Do you agree with the summary maths I recently posted?

Omnibus

You agreed with my equations and you should go with what you already agreed with.