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SMOT! - (previously about the OC MPMM)

Started by rotorhead, October 03, 2007, 11:01:31 PM

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Low-Q

Quote from: Omnibus on March 11, 2008, 07:20:49 AM
@shruggedaltas,

This would be analogous to SMOT if the ball returns spontaneously to B.
A SMOT does not allow the ball to return sontaneously to point B. The experimenter must use energy to place th ball at point B in any case - shruggedatlas idea, or with SMOT.

Vidar

Omnibus

Quote from: Low-Q on March 11, 2008, 10:53:50 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 11, 2008, 07:20:49 AM
@shruggedaltas,

This would be analogous to SMOT if the ball returns spontaneously to B.
A SMOT does not allow the ball to return sontaneously to point B. The experimenter must use energy to place th ball at point B in any case - shruggedatlas idea, or with SMOT.

Vidar

Stop with this stupidity.

Low-Q

@Shruggedatlas idea is perfectly equivalent to SMOT. No doubt about that. Quite obvious, so to speak. I say "equivalent" as the type of physical manner of operation is different. Doesn't matter. @Shruggedatlas has even accounted for the tention of the cord on its way from B to C, where the tension is least right before the ball is passing point C, as the cords base is angular to the ramp right before the ramps very end at point C + the weight ofthe ball. The very same thing happening in a SMOT.

So @Shruggedatlas idea is perfectly analogous to SMOT.

Vidar

shruggedatlas

Quote from: Low-Q on March 11, 2008, 10:37:51 AM
Hi,

Is the red bungee cord fixed in point X? Is the bungee cord some kind of a rubber band with a ball fixed at the other end?

Yes, this is what I meant, Low-Q.  It is exactly like a rubber band.

I also don't see how in the original SMOT example, the ball spontaneously returns to B.  It only returns to A.  The experimenter has to lift it to B.

Omnibus

Quote from: Low-Q on March 11, 2008, 11:06:31 AM
@Shruggedatlas idea is perfectly equivalent to SMOT. No doubt about that. Quite obvious, so to speak. I say "equivalent" as the type of physical manner of operation is different. Doesn't matter. @Shruggedatlas has even accounted for the tention of the cord on its way from B to C, where the tension is least right before the ball is passing point C, as the cords base is angular to the ramp right before the ramps very end at point C + the weight ofthe ball.

So @Shruggedatlas idea is perfectly analogous to SMOT.

Vidar

If you don't want to hear repeatedly how stupid you are restrain from splashing your nonsense all over this forum.