Is water a battery?

[phantomcow2]

One of the arguments I hear people make about why the Stan Meyer fuel cell is not a really legit solution to anything is that you can only get the energy you put in, out.  So if you're putting 6 watts of electrical energy, the best you are ever going to get is 6 watts of chemical energy out.  Is this true?  Is the fuel cell simply converting electrical energy into chemical? 

[strapped9]

From what I hear, best case scenario is same in as out. thats at 100% efficiency. however, some seem to get over 300% out. Thats the overunity we are all after here. Check out ravi's work. Incredible!

[phantomcow2]

It is incredible.  My only thought is that there is energy already inside of the water; potential energy.  And that you are just inputting the energy IN to extract the already existent potential energy in the water.  I really don't know.  I'm making a meyer fuel cell right now (just soldered my circuit today!), and I need to better reply to people when they question me!.

[sanmankl]

Hi all,

Not sure if this constitute "a battery". I ran my ss plate cells for a minute and when I switch off the circuit, the LED that is tied to the drain of my mosfet lights up for more than a minute. When I measure the voltage across the cell (no power applied), it reads around 1.3V.

So, it look's like cell does retain some charge.

cheers, cp

[Evil Roy Slade]

It is incredible.  My only thought is that there is energy already inside of the water; potential energy.  And that you are just inputting the energy IN to extract the already existent potential energy in the water.  I really don't know.  I'm making a meyer fuel cell right now (just soldered my circuit today!), and I need to better reply to people when they question me!.

The Stanley Meyer fuel cell uses conventional electrolysis to extract hydrogen from water. The electricity to do this comes from a battery, Unfortunately the power produced by an engine using hydrogen is not enough to recharge the source battery. Therefore...its useless! May as well run an electric motor direct from the battery!
Go ahead and build your very own SM cell if you want....but prepare to be disappointed.