Teslas electric car

[pese]

Hans had posted this a few years back on another thread.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3691.0

Tate Power from the air

    Tate Ambient Power Module. Joseph Tate Last Known Address 760 Waldo Point Sausalito Ca (4965) 415 331 8150 332 9918 U.S. Patent 4,628,299



    This design converts radio frequency energy to power that can be usefully applied in power devices such as clocks,radios and smoke detectors.

    This design makes use of a doubler, splitter and rectifier.

    The device has been known to give 36 volt/9 watts.

    This devices does away for the need for batteries by extracting energy from natural and man made radio waves.

    THe device uses a coil made of the following design 479 turns of #22 wire on a 3" plastic tube, the coil should be loosely wound as a close wound coil tends to reduce power collection. One end should be connected to unit at antenna connection point and the other to an antenna of your choice .

    Other coil types could be used in your experiments such as sliding induction coils that is inside one another and find the best position by moving them in different positions.

    Other coil types can be found by referencing any good book on radio fundamentals. Check out the Telsa type coils as well.

    Power could be also enhanced by placing a tin foil pyramid under the coil as this seems to also improve power.

    The power produced also seems to improve near bridges,ships and any thing containing a great deal of metal.

    A high antenna wire seems to improve the running of unit although a 7 foot whip antenna worked reasonably well too.

NON-SENS.
You cant find such extremly power in natural enbiroment !
in Front of an AM Radio statuon you can find such power.
I done this 1955 (yes, i was 14 ! old).
next 1m34 are detectin diodes fpr use in transistorized receiver, an can never use to rectify 9watt  at 36volts (equal to 300mAmps. !.
1N34 are (i have them) for using typical  lower than 1mA. in receivers. or up to 50mA applications.

For  sucht circuit, as in patent.  1n270 , 1n277 germanium gold bonded diodes are fpr the needed current usefully, BUT the  circuit, is never usefull in any normally condition (as offered).
pese

THIS is NOT the way, to drive an electric car , like tesla!

[e2matrix]

70L7

it is an double system tube.
1 part ist Audio output pentode (to drive the loudspeacker,
the DIODE  ist an one way rectifier  to rectifie the 110volts ACc (MAINPOWER) TO  (ABOUT 150VOLTS). So that was usual to use no Power transformers in radio receiver, so it was uses an 70 Volt heating filament.

70L7 need 70Volt  115L7  115Volt AC to heat up  to becomes electron flow between cathode and anode of the tube.

(70 volts used in receivers if som other receiving tubes was added in serie to total 115volt)   115L7 was used in singel tubes amplifiers (phono ).
-I am born 1941 and working from 1950 beginnig 1950 in my fathers radio repair shop)  So i know the technik my whole life on beginning..)

BUT WHY Tesla use 70volt burning filaments, IF it was also 12 volt types wit - als the others SAME caracteristics on the marked =!=!. I showed all european and us types !!

So another secret must be inckude-
Tesla have -sure- nit used 12 volt to invert that first ti 70 volts !!,

So the tubes was used colf (without heating=)
or undergliwed with only dark-red heating with 12 volts

So also you must understand that this tube habe only 2-3 watt powerdissipation, and can never  power an motor. als 10 or ore underheatet /an underpowered( tubes cant work as an
amplifier ??

I have brocken my head over years for this ask.

I belive you are an an good way to find this out with your
cakculations. The secret it is to find (i think so) in the electron flow of the cathode.
the ether give an lot of RF Power over an spectrum of waves to the antenna, that give (as mix) an lot of nois.frequencies.
Pehaps that are or will be mixed with the waves outvoming
of the cathodes ot the tubes.

(I remember an electronic tube cirvuit wit 5R4 5U4 rectifier tubes from SM (that was for short tim to see in WEB. (5-6 years ago) in this page he found an unknow additinally power, that he could not explain, BUT so i have understand this circuit
he find an power because he use 2 transformers that have disparated anode and cathode circuit in two parts...

Offcause this circuit was deleted (i think so) very fast from the web. It MUST have some interesting details...

Sorry my english... but i think the information is better than an perfect english language

G Pese

Pese,  I don't like to think I just wasted money buying some 70L7-GT tubes I was planning on experimenting with as I thought there might be something to look at with them (and I got a good deal on some).  But after buying them I found some info that makes it perplexing how Tesla could have used this particular tube.  There is a message thread on OU here about it as someone looked into it even deeper than I had.  The problem is they GE, Raytheon and other tube makers did not even make this particular tube until years after Tesla was said to have used them in the Pierce Arrow electric car demo.  So unless Tesla had some time travel machine or maybe an insider in a tube manufacturing company it seems unlikely he used this particular tube.  This leads me to wonder if these are the correct number or if there was some 'data cleaning' done by the FBI or the PTB concerning the actual tube numbers.

[nightlife]

Pese, I do understand that and I was not looking at it as if it could. I thought it may help myself and or others come up with ways to do so.

That design does collect energy from frequencies, not as much as we need but there maybe another natural frequency and or multiples of others that when combined, say 12, maybe able to supply enough power.

[wings]

Yes , this come more "nearby" that was i read , years ago.  Not in overunity.

BUT it MUST be the following experiments,
because  he "find interessantly things" ,
so his words (your found text)

Pese

in these post:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7046.msg174677#msg174677

[pese]

Pese,  I don't like to think I just wasted money buying some 70L7-GT tubes I was planning on experimenting with as I thought there might be something to look at with them (and I got a good deal on some).   

Sure , it is not waste.
Any experiment can help to understand
I try  to let you know, thatt possibly each other tu, do the same
also the system beam-pentode and rect-diode you find a lot of types (in singe tubes and separate (2) tubes.
I think that  teslo NOT used them in "normal configution" as amplifier or rectifier.
Why he have not used 12 volt tubes ??  (12 volt need for filament heaters ! He have not 70volt on his
car-battery !  Why ? 
Have he "underheated" the cathode ?   Have he only used
the cathode,-electron flow ? The emitted wave from tge dark.red kightning ? The waves coming from the  wolfram (bismuth) ? The waves emitting from the cathode-barium ??

It give more to think... not only to electron receiver tube ! Tesla have found and work something withit THAN IS UNUSUAL, so you (we) must  think no the small area of 70L7 Datasheets.  - Including that what SM done with his 5u4  2way rect.tube
- only the emitting electrons have him give (possibly) additional (unusual) energies, that he tried to understand.
(he have stop it, because ununderstanding or surpressing ?)

Pese

P.S.

IF Tesla have used this "noisy" electron flow...
What he have done with this ?

And why the "antenna" on the car ?


Both frequencies (from receiving antenna and the tubes"
was used and important for him.

so he have used the tube  to emitting rf noise in a very wide range of frequencies OR in the range of emmitting barium or bismuth catode.

(As Oscillator?) to mix them with the endless power of ether that received from antenna?

On such things we must possible think also, BECAUSE sucht tube only CAN NOT HANDLE  an small amount of power that was need for the motor..
The secret is never the electronic tube circuit... , we must also see other unusal possibilities to youse the tubes.

Tesla, have he used the resonance frequency from the vacuum (inner the tubes) - cold ? not heating the tubes?.  12 tubes (parallel?) instead of one (with bigger electronic power) !! Why ?
(Only an idea to show over the limits of educated physics).