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Teslas electric car

Started by armagdn03, October 11, 2007, 11:18:19 AM

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endlessoceans

Quote from: forest on May 01, 2017, 03:02:39 AM
Hubbard,Amman,Perrigo - they all had electric car running on cosmic energy before 1930 with newspapers following their progress, so it was not surprise Tesla could do it also.

Such Vague claims Forest or whatever other name you go under

1)  Hubbard had access to radioactive materials of which there are well know principles to 'amplify ' electricity

2)  Perrigo was thoroughly investigated, resisted all attempts at looking at his car and was later found to be a fraud with a large 12v battery hidden under the seat of the vehicle

3)  Amman admitted to using 'minerals' in his device.   Minerals = Fuel of some sort.

4)  All in all unless there is further EVIDENCE that points otherwise, making big claims that all these devices "are the same' serves no purpose

All that is needs is iron and wire you say?  PLease by all means explain.

endlessoceans

Quote from: Magluvin on May 01, 2017, 01:49:44 AM
Read an article years ago about electric cars. They were out since 1838.  The first car dealerships were electric cars. The History channel story on cars did not reflect that info and only said they tried to compete with combustion engines but didnt muster the speed.  When really it was that people didnt like the loud noise and smoke from the fire breathing cars. 

If there was electric cars that could harvest energy to run, then yeah the oil companies had to boost the gas cars above electrics before the free running cars became mainstream.

Mags

Yes electric cars and advancements in electric motors were rapid but they all fell short in one respect......energy source.  It was only the invention of the lead acid cell in commercial quantities that made the electric car viable.

However lets not get carried away with speculation as to why they died out. 

NONE....I repeat...NONE of the commercial electric cars were running on cosmic energy.  They all used a battery of some kind.  They didn't die out because of some terrible oil industry conspiracy. 

1)  Electric Cars were twice the expense of Fuel driven

2)  Their weight and efficiency was terrible.

3)  The invention of the electric starter in fuel cars made them more popular so people didn't have to break their backs in bad weather cranking them up. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_electric_vehicle


Stick to the facts and we can find TRUTH of all sorts.

So what happened to Amman?  As the story goes he was "off to Washington to file a patent".  Did he get lost along the way?  Murdered?  What?

So far every one of these claims has been debunked and the inventors +98% were shown to be frauds.  The math doesn't stack up.

There are some excellent methods of power utilization that are certainly not being used today but all that can be supported with good experimentation and replicable bench tests.


Magluvin

Quote from: endlessoceans on May 01, 2017, 07:22:37 PM
Yes electric cars and advancements in electric motors were rapid but they all fell short in one respect......energy source.  It was only the invention of the lead acid cell in commercial quantities that made the electric car viable.

However lets not get carried away with speculation as to why they died out. 

NONE....I repeat...NONE of the commercial electric cars were running on cosmic energy.  They all used a battery of some kind.  They didn't die out because of some terrible oil industry conspiracy. 

1)  Electric Cars were twice the expense of Fuel driven

2)  Their weight and efficiency was terrible.

3)  The invention of the electric starter in fuel cars made them more popular so people didn't have to break their backs in bad weather cranking them up. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_electric_vehicle


Stick to the facts and we can find TRUTH of all sorts.

So what happened to Amman?  As the story goes he was "off to Washington to file a patent".  Did he get lost along the way?  Murdered?  What?

So far every one of these claims has been debunked and the inventors +98% were shown to be frauds.  The math doesn't stack up.

There are some excellent methods of power utilization that are certainly not being used today but all that can be supported with good experimentation and replicable bench tests.


". Sadly, it is soon destroyed by railway workers who see it as a potential threat to their livelihood"

https://cleantechnica.com/2015/04/26/electric-car-history/


"This impressive performance so alarmed railway workers (who saw it as a threat to their jobs tending steam engines) that they destroyed Davidson's devil machine, which he'd named "Galvani.""


http://www.caranddriver.com/flipbook/worth-the-watt-a-brief-history-of-the-electric-car-1830-to-present



Now if the railroad thought it was a threat to their industry, then the propaganda against electric, whether it was viable or not, by the oil companies Im sure was null in your viewpoint. ::)

Mags

rakarskiy


Vinyasi

Quote from: endlessoceans on May 01, 2017, 07:11:07 PM
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3)  Amman admitted to using 'minerals' in his device.   Minerals = Fuel of some sort.

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The mineral may be finely powdered silica (silicon dioxide) or calcium ferrite not serving as a fuel but serving as a dielectric material for the noble gas inside of those two hollow copper spheres. The noble gas serves as a source for negative resistance. Together, they combine to function as a capacitor with negative resistance which is its own fuel source if these capacitors are precharged with any amount of voltage difference between their plates. In the case of the hollow copper spheres, there is only one physical plate, namely: the sphere, while the other plate is a virtual plate at the center of each sphere rooted in the complex number field. This is Eric Dollard's definition, and functional description, of Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter in that his transmitter was not grounded to Earth as its reference. It was grounded into counter-space which is the realm of imaginary numbers.

I have been studying this, and other devices, on various simulated representations and am pondering this one.

Anyone have any motivation, suggestions, on pursuing a test-build?

By the way,...

My information about our Sun comes from this website...

https://thesurfaceofthesun.com/

PS, To prevent our Sun from blowing up, our Solar System's set of planetary objects, plus non-planetary debris (such as: our Asteroid belt, etc), serves as an electrical load which "balances the load", namely: counterpoises the generation of apparent power by our Sun with the consumption of power outside of our Sun. This phrase of "balancing the load" is often used by electrical engineers whose responsibility entails managing the electric utility grid to prevent explosions (at transformers, etc) or other overvoltages from occurring and also prevent brownouts or blackouts. So, it's very important how much load resides in our Solar System orbiting our Sun versus how much total power, i.e.: real power plus reactive power, our Sun produces.