Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[Loki67671]

I would have to invite PM to have a look at the current waveform being delivered by the power supply not panel meters, if that is what the judgement is based upon, unless of course it based with the circuit PM built  I'm working on getting mine running and will eventually have exact reproductions of Dr. Stiffler's circuits. They are very interesting circuits. Are they showing unconventional energy transfers? I don't know yet as I have not reproduced them yet. Where do we measure power in? The output terminals of the power supply? The power cord from the mains? Power measurements can be a real pain in the ass. Power measurements in dynamic systems like oscillator circuits, and any other AC or impulse circuit for that matter,  are not simple at all. They require simultaneous, accurate, voltage and current measurements as well as an understanding of phase shifting and reactive power. I think I'm going to use the light output measurement for tuning, as suggested, and then find the output power using a calorimeter, as suggested. The input power may be a little more tricky but I can't make any judgement until I'm measuring it myself. Then I will post the results. I hope that Dr. Stiffler will share the complete results with us. I have my share of PHD friends that will be glad to point out where I'm dreaming. They will also be amazed and awed if the data shows anomalous results based on conventional EM theory. That is what science is all about. Dr Stiffler seems to be quite genuine and he, or someone on his staff, is definitely skilled in electrical engineering. I won't make any judgements until they are on my own attempts to reproduce this possible anomaly...........Just my freaking buck and half..............................................  Jim 

[allcanadian]

@Loki67671
power measurement is easy --- you use a capacitor as your power supply and charge a capacitor on the output. Capacitors do not lie  All these calaculations and equations like in that peswiki fiasco are just to impress the girls, they mean nothing in "reality".

[Loki67671]

@allcanadian,
Thanks. Will explore that. But I think more importantly; 

All,
Have we established, as a team or group, this most important of processes as a standard? Power out over power in? I think it would be a very good idea to establish exact criteria and methods to accomplish this that we all use without fail. A standard if you will. That way we will avoid any unnecessary arguments over what energy is being delivered to the load as compared to the energy being supplied by our power supplies. If anyone believes for a moment that Dr Stiffler submitted one of his circuits to an independent laboratory for testing without first performing an exhausting series of measurements and analysis, shame on you. I really doubt he would spend the money on independent V&V (Verification & Validation) without having convinced himself first. We would do good to follow suit and I mean as a standard method across the board. No point in arguing that my oranges are different from your apples  sheesh! Any way, If any of you guys and gals have some of these antenna cores and are convinced that Dr. Stiffler has been huffing too much rosin without a ventilation fan I may be convinced to get you a little bit of your cash back, i.e. will consider purchasing from you. I try to build all of my circuits and devices out of junk or used items as much as possible. Maybe I'm just cheap In reality I have been brainwashed by too many project managers......including my wife Just PM or e-mail me and we will discuss it. Actually I would like to just buy a small roll of the litz wire, if anyone knows where that is readily available in small to medium quantities.
@Dr Stiffler,
Please, if you would be so kind, post a document or at least let's collaborate on the creation of the standard lab manual for unconventional researchers. We could then post it here, peer review it, come to agreement amongst each other and use it. I would be quite interested in your thoughts and methods for efficiency calculations and measurements. If, of course, you are willing to do that?

Arguing is a very good thing as long as we are arguing over technical details and data. But they have to be based on standards to the best of our abilities. Arguing over irrelevant data or attacking each other personally should be banished.

Onward through the fog.........................Jim

[AhuraMazda]

@jim,
Please stop looking through the window and just do the experiments. For me, in doing these experiments, I have seen things that can not be explained with text book understanding. Power-in vs the power-out is only part of the issue.
In the words of Bruce Lee, if you concentrate on the finger you miss out on the heavenly glory.

AM

[Loki67671]

@AM
Roger that. The weekend has almost arrived and I have wound the inductors except for the damned litz wire. Someone is about to loose an AM radio very shortly. Premeditated electronic cannibalism. IN progress............Jim