Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[fritz]

Dear All,

Some people in this forum know my complete name, my profession
and where I live. Even Wolfgang is my first name and Friedrich (fritz)
is my middle name(nickname).
As long as I make general technical statements here - I see no reason
why everybody should know me !!??
I think Dr. Stiffler is a funny guy, which plays out the #10 funny analog
tricks to the public - this is a quite educational thing.
At least I think its a good training to analyze things - to train our
perception to differentiate between believe, fact and science.

I think the original intention of the circuit was to play around with an
"inverted hysteresis" setup. Having a resonator with nonlinear C(FET)
and nonlinear L (ferrite) envolved.
Such stuff should swing forever if excited once if properly biased.
It should be no problem for such a competent player to operate
such circuit without any wire attached using feedback.

Even if no LED attached - just selfoscillating forever - he could easily
proof this by putting a frequency analyser at his bench. (using tiny
wire to catch oscillation emmitted by this oscillator)

Because of the fact that he uses no proper prototype - and shows
no effort to make the stuff work on its own - I have the feeling that (...)
Its up to you. Funny guy.

rgds,

fritz

[jonesbeene]

"It is O.K. to notice the wire under the pan. It is not O.K. to suggest he is a fraud until you know what the wire does. The wire is most likely connected to nothing in order to allow you to shove your foot in your mouth further, if that is even possible at this point."

well said ... except please don't dignify that silly 'wire under the pan' comment with another reference. The original poster of that inane observation was obviously too lazy to look at the previous YouTube  video where it is blatantly obvious that this wire is his ground connection. Duh.

And yes - it is true that, so-far, the system does requires a ground as a substitute for the signal and cannot be floated. Is that where the powers coming from? Surely everyone must realize that the goal is to float the system withs its own onboard timing - but this is an ongoing, evolving project. Look how far it has come in the week since the CE4 video was posted.

Doubtful that his ground could be doing this, but before the next skeptic genius chimes in, let me mention "resonant rise" as being a possibility for at least understanding how the voltage gets pumped up- but still ask yourself how can any ground connection provide about .3 v on a regular basis ;-) 

At least the 'joule thief' device (site below) --- IF it does represents the limits of how far you can take resonant-rise, would indicate that you need ~.3 v of potential from somewhere, correct? ... and remember that Dr. S is now up to 20 LEDs on this same circuit.

He would still be posting these updates, and answering intelligent questions, instead of me relaying them, if some of the posters here had a little civility and respect. He wants to understand this as much as you do, and a wide number of replications and inputs is the only way to get anywhere without adding a large staff.

Here is the 'joule thief' URL:
http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/bigclive/joule.htm

Jones

[fritz]

Dear All,

Ok, some suggestions:

1st:

Make the stuff work on a proper prototype:
Use a tiny copper pcb, solder the stuff in a way you
do it for rf (no cables, no wires, just components as
close as can be. (30 minutes)
Maybe(make the stuff work then) will take longer;-))

2nd:

Replace an LED by a tiny DC/DC converter which powers
a tiny RC pulse oscillator in HCMOS which operates the circuit.
(Still use external power to startup, then disconnect) (2hrs)

3rd:

Operate the stuff outside, start up with battery and move
around to proof that no radiation around. (avoid visble tranformer
houses and powerplants on the video).
You can even hold the stuff == ground it - no problem with that (2hrs)

(...)
If I discover something, I track it down to the rootcause.
Adding more LEDs is interesting - but not the way to prove the setup.
If magical things happen on my breadboard - I verify that - and dont
mystify it.

[Freenrg4me]

@ jonesbeene

Interesting link to the joule thief. That is something I can build today - Thanks.

To develop this friendly discussion further regarding the last CE7 video, it is worth noticing that the pan is propped up on a piece of insulating plastic. The wire is long enough to go AROUND the pan but it does not.

As long as everyone is speculating, (including me) I wonder if the wire is not connected to a piece of foil that is touching the pan and he didn't want to give that away yet. The circuit shows an aluminum plate.

I speculate  in the end, you will see that the circuit DOES float and run on it's own. Everything I have seen thus far suggests that.

I for one am very excited about this and think it is the best thing I have seen in years. A person would have to be cynical to a psycho level to think that Mr. Stiffler would go on you tube, identify himself and then play some kind of hoax on people. It is clear he is intelligent and credible.

Maybe this should be the speculation rule:
If you don't have at least 5 of those cores on order, you should not be speculating on this and if you do have them ordered, you should give Dr. Stiffler the respect and kindness we all deserve.

There is no crime in being stupid. All of us are at times in our life, including Dr. S. but exhibiting belligerence and ignorance at the same time will always be perceived as an injustice to the receiver because it is just that.

No offense to fritz or anyone else, we all know things that even Dr. Stiffler does not know. I for one can pack a parachute with blind folded or loop an airplane with a glass of water in one hand without spilling any. I'll bet Ron Stiffler can't do that! :-) But then he would be smart enough not to try... :-)

The important thing is that we share what we know and when we are wrong, we are gentle with our fellow man when it is deserved. I hope that Dr. Stiffler will be gentle with us as well, we are a "group" of individuals.

I am going to order ten more cores and get them shipped overnight air. Another week is too long to wait to start figuring this out.

Also I talked to the seller of the cores and they do come from China and they sell other shapes and sizes. Let's get this replicated and then improve it possibly with a more efficient toroid and work constructively together while we do.

Wouldn't it be something if we took this idea and replaced the crank generator in the One laptop per child laptop? The generator is the most expensive parts. If we work together on this we can do that. I live in a world of possibilities, not impossibilities.

[Freenrg4me]

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