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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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emitremmah

Dr. Stiffler,
What about using a known heat resitant filter in the calorimeter. So the maximum temperature doesn't cause vaporisation but rather a slower and lower maximum temp.

As long as the heat resistor is the same and known between your baseline and then the calculations should be similar.

wrap the heat source is something like an oven mitt or heaven forbid "asbestos", fired clay or some other known heat absorber/filter.

Bernard
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tinu

@DrStiffler,

I watched the thread in silence and I have to admit that I?m sitting on the safe side. Nonetheless, I?d love to see an undeniable proof of CoP>1 and I wish you best of luck and inspiration. Please find several suggestions you may dismiss entirely or use at your convenience.

1. Assume that a constant and repeatable working regime can be achieved. (i.e. CoP measurements would be valid for that particular functioning point only but it may be enough to boost further experiments and to open gates for independent lab confirmations). ?Black box? approach is suggested, measuring Pin, Pout and Ploses, where all are assumed to be kept approximately constant (i.e. function of relatively few controlled parameters like voltage and ambient temperature) and independent of each other through different tests.

2. Pin:
a) on short term (i.e. minutes), based on RC constant, as previously suggested;
b) on longer term (i.e. days) by using two matched (based on discharge curve) sets of identical rechargeable batteries; discharge (intermittent in control setup if needed) on precision resistor(s); control by comparing voltage; integration of voltage times current; batteries permutation; average.
a and b above can also give an error estimate; corrections can then be applied to reduce the gross error.

3. At this stage I?d convert all Pout in loses (i.e. in heat) for simplicity.

4. For Ploses (or Pout) as heat, absolute calorimetry may be a real pain. I?d use instead comparative calorimetry, based on simply minimizing the differential temperature in two identical setups (calorimeters) and measuring power in required for keeping the same temperature on long run (at thermal equilibrium). Air as working fluid might perform well, although air flow (placement of device, Rcontrol and temp sensors) as well as internal calorimeter volume may require several trials. I?d use water maybe just as external fluid to provide the same T-ext (eventually thermo stabilized) & an appropriate heat sink and that only if it proves absolutely necessary.

Again, please don?t hate me for the long and painful path suggested above.
(Apparently, the hard work is always expected to be done by the inventor and I?ve already admitted my quilt so far  ;))

Respectfully,
Tinu

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