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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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aether22

Here it is, hope it works, not used rapidshare before (in the UL direction), I figured someone else would beat me to it but I guess not.

http://rapidshare.com/files/135187495/uee.pdf.html
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

AbbaRue

I do have a running setup, it is based on one of your first setups running 40 leds with it.
Also used it to light up a 40 watt incandescent light bulb.
But I noticed that when I ran it with certain things plugged in in my lab
that the output was higher then when nothing else was plugged in.
I am just trying to explain why that is happening. 
One of the things I plugged in that really made a difference was an isolation transformer with
nothing plugged into it.
So I'm not being silly, I'm seeking an answer for my observations.
My setup is built on a proto board not with the parts soldered in a circuit board.
I haven't purchased the right inductors yet for the latest circuit.

Thanks for your reply Loki67671.

Sorry Dr. I will try to keep my posts more constructive.
And thankyou for your electrolyzer contribution,
it is very simular to what I had in mind to try as well after I seen the video on the SS wire in water.



aether22

I'll have to blame the headache, but on my first skim I missed the mention of performance.

It is 96% +/- 2% efficiency

Which is of course slightly underunity, but each additional electrode pair increases efficiency by 37%, so it will quickly become significantly OU provided you are not short of carbon, diodes and that the statement hold up over an almost endless number of additional pairs (well, before the container is full of them anyway).

There are 2 concerns however, the first is that SEC's have not much input power therefore it might take many carbon rods and diode sets to get a useful gas output (assuming the stated efficiency wasn't lowered to pass inspection without raised eyebrows), at least until the medium power SEC's are shipped.

The next is that overunity production of hho/hydroxy/hydrogen/whatever is already established with effiencies of 5-10 times greater than Faraday. (though generally only in an explosive form possibly not suited to holding a flame)

Now what I can't help but wonder just a little is if this is making a type of SEC excited Joe Cell, in which case the production of gas isn't really required for running this on a car, of course that is a bit of a leap and there are many who would not be ready for the wild JC accounts out there.

Possibly the most pressing question is about the 37% increase in efficiency, I can imagine there are a few different ways to add that up, but mainly is it compound or simple interest, er I mean efficiency?
And does adding another pair increase or decrease the drain on the battery? (interestingly I have concluded no change would be best as we want more gas output not less electrical input)

If it is truly only a 37% increase then getting this useful could be a bit tricky with low powered SEC's, each added set either has to reduce the output of the other sets, or increase the drain, or both (if it does neither and has the same output it's self then it's well beyond 37% efficiency increase!) and so as you can't push much power into a SEC even if you can continually improve the efficiency you won't have a huge gas output even though it might be quite OU.

Of more interest would be to understand this, we see that the fluros decreased the battery drain as each was added and all lit up more brightly, so maybe other types of circuits can do as the fluros and carbon rods are doing, maybe tuned? tank circuits (possibly with ferrite inductors?) or diode plugs in the water or around about using carbon in some way, really what are the odds that this amplification effect only applies to fluro tubes and electrolysis? (I would note however that the circuit might need something 'special' about it).

Also is there not a chance that as each added fluro (and each carbon pair) increases the output that it is doing so because it is producing fields the others are feeding off? If so produce stronger fields!
If not then it is due to a stronger spacial (aether/lattice) disruption, in which case find ways to more powerfully disrupt 'space'.


note: After initially hating the idea of a fluffy new/old agey sounding aether, over a decade ago I found from studying these devices and much more that there is an aether (I'd stake my life on it without hesitation based on the overwhelming evidence) and Stiffler I know believes similar though I don't know how similar etc. , nor do I know if we may both be accurately describing our own part of the same elephant.  (I wonder what those unfamiliar with the allegory will think I mean)

That was just clarifying I'm not saying that lattice and aether are or aren't the same thing.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

Loki67671

@All,
Now obviously the first thing you will need to accomplish is a correctly functioning SEC exciter or 6...LOL....I'm not kidding there.  ;D Until Dr. Stiffler decides "if" he is going to go with a professional run of G3's, you'll have to learn to build them. BY the way Ron I want 4 of those G3's please. Just let me know or better yet I'll follow up with an E-mail.  ;) There is a definite way around the FCC issue as I'm sure you are aware  ;D. I certainly have an idea of how I'm going to do it.  8) 8)

Once you are running a SEC exciter correctly the answers to the questions will be right in front of you. There is much work to do but the root technology has been handed over by a VERY generous man. Be thankful! As a suggestion review this thread. Many of the scaling up points are contained here also. Dr Stiffler has posted a ton of the information right here in these pages but you must start out by learning the basic exciter and that means building it and learning to make it run in SEC mode. It is unmistakable when you have it!

Like I said I have a few more items to gather and then +37% for each pair and all of the new technical troubles that will create for me.........I love it!  ;D
I'd also suggest getting a semiconductor catalog and ordering parts.......you're going to need them........... ;D

Much much more to follow....... 8)

Best regards,

Jim 
"When the water stinks, I break the dam, with Love I break it" .............Loki

"One must be completely immersed in the cold darkness to truly adore or loathe the light" .............Loki

Science, my lad, is made up of mistakes, but they are mistakes which it is useful to make, because they lead little by little to the truth." - Jules Verne

Kator01

Hello,

can Stefan or some other member put dr.stifflers file in the file-section here. Stiffler site is off.

Thank you

Kator